What cable for an AEG induction hob?

dodgy_damo

Last week i bought an AEG Induction hob (68001 KFN) to put into my new kitchen. It didnt come supplied with a cable. Does any one have an idea of what cable I need to buy, I presume from an electrical wholesaler? The instruction manual lists the cable needed as H05BB -F Tmax 90 degrees or higher. I couldnt find anything on google!

phill99

You need to check the KW Rating. 6 mm Twin and Earth is normally sufficient although it might need 10mm. Your best advised to get a qualified electrician.

dodgy_damo

It's 7,4 Kw. Anyone else?

phill99

6mm twin and earth should be fine, but only know this from experience and working out the rating not because I am a qualified electrician.

dennis_the_menace_2

Hi,
the specification is for Heat Resistant Cable, of at least a cross section of 6mm, you are into real electrician type Work here, do not Connect this Appliance to an ordinary Three Pin Wall Socket or similar. The Correct way is to a Fused Cooker Outlet Point Via a Double Pole Switch, if this is a direct replacement for an existing unit then that should be their already. I would seriously recommend using a Qualified Electrician as there are serious Safety issues with D.I.Y.
D.M

dodgy_damo

Thanks Guys.
I popped back into the shop i bought the appliance from. they said 6mm "cooker cable" is what's needed and was pointed to the nearest electrical wholesaler. I'll pick it up when I've 5 mins.
I have already had a fused cooker point put in ready for this new hob, and another for the oven.
The instruction booklet is sketchy to say the least!

mitchelkitman

I too had this issue with the mystery wire H05BB-F specified by Electrolux.
To cut a long story short.... Electrolux state unless I use the wire I have no warranty. I can't buy the wire anywhere. Trading Standards said Electrolux should supply it (6 months ago!) Still haven't got it. Electrolux state "get it from Service Force - our service agent" but they (Service Force) say get it from B&Q!!!! They don't have it either. I suggest this is a Warranty Avoidance Scheme by AEG Electrolux. Trading Standards have now given up.

zax47

This is it;

H05BB-F but as a qualified electrician I would suggest that as it's maximum size is 2.5mm, then it is too thin to carry your 7.5kW.

A butyl covered heat resistant flex like this would be OK, at 4mm it can carry around 35A which is OK for your hob (~33A), but 6mm would be better if you can.

Heat resistant butyl covered flex

mikey72

4mm is a bit close if the spec is 7.4kw at 220v, better if it's 7.4kw at 250v.
Depends on your hob, but I wouldn't use it personally.
I always use 6mm. The type of cable can vary depending on what the wholesaler has, as there are several different specs that will meet some or all of the requirements, for example H05BB-F is rated at 90C, the 4.0mm 3183TQ Butyl is only spec'ed at 85C. I have a 50m reel of a cable that I personally am happy to use to connect up cookers and hobs, other electricians have the same or different as suits them. No-one should be using twin and earth.
The cable is never supplied by companies like Electrolux, as it also recommends that an electrician connect it in the instruction book. If they supply loose cable and you electrocute yourself/set fire to the house they could be held liable. So I would suggest trading standards are wrong is this case.

TimBuckTeeth

Here is another description of the cable :
http://www.furas.es/cableInfo.php?name=H05BB-F

It is synthetic rubber insulated cable - the important characteristics required are the temperature resistance upto 90C and the flexible circular construction which will fit into the cable inlet on the cooker. Normal twin and earth cable should not be used as it is only resistant to 70C and will not fit or be secured correctly into the inlet designed for circular cable.

An electrician or the manual should be consulted as to what thickness (eg. 4mm or 6mm) of cable should be used. 4mm might be OK allowing for diversity - it would normally be safe to assume that all 4 pan positions are going to be used at full power rarely and for only short periods.

mikey72

H05BB-F on that page still only goes to 2.5mm.
If you want to apply diversity to a single hob, and try to say it can be down rated, I wouldn't let you in my kitchen.
It's also a bad idea to post without seeing the installation, or knowing how the cooker would be used. 6mm means you can leave all 4 pans on all day if you want to. Only safe cable for 7.4kw, as that's all we know about it.