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HMRC enquiry website (tax-hell.co.uk)

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  • mtem74
    mtem74 Posts: 288 Forumite
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    just a couple of questions Nic

    Did you tell the taxman you were recording your calls at anytime or was it covert?

    If you're innocent then how come you agreed to the reduction in your expenses? Was it that not all of them were genuine?
  • jamesd
    jamesd Posts: 26,103 Forumite
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    Nick, please confirm that you have received personal approval from MSE for posting here to promote your ebook. It's against the rules to post for personal gain otherwise.
  • Ste_C
    Ste_C Posts: 676 Forumite
    jamesd wrote: »
    Nick, please confirm that you have received personal approval from MSE for posting here to promote your ebook. It's against the rules to post for personal gain otherwise.

    Against the rules to put your own personal gain first? Doesn't seem like it stopped him before - hence him sparking a tax enquiry!
  • RayWolfe
    RayWolfe Posts: 3,045 Forumite
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    jamesd wrote: »
    for posting here to promote your ebook. It's against the rules to post for personal gain otherwise.
    Twice ...........
  • harryhound
    harryhound Posts: 2,662 Forumite
    edited 26 June 2009 at 3:20AM
    This is a discussion forum.
    There is too much ad hominem argument.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    What this thread boils down to is:
    The government is spending way too much of our GDP, now rising towards 50%.
    The government is running at a major deficit and redundancies will be coming to the public sector, even if it is the IMF that will impose them.
    It has at least doubled the complexity of our tax system in an attempt to collect this level of tax, and to offer "incentives" to tax payers using their own money.
    Two different cultures have been forced together by the creation of HMR&C.
    The softly softly culture of the Revenue has lost out to the more macho culture of Customs.
    Computerisation has been used to impose a command and control culture (think police) on the Revenue collectors, who by definition must be over worked and under skilled. The individual officer has less scope for using his initiative hence situations where 10's of thousands are spent to collect a modest four figure sum.
    FAR MORE TO THE POINT person months of intelligent individuals' creative time is wasted, by both sides, on this loss making, money churning, incentivised, attempt to collect more tax.
    I would recommend everyone, especially those on PAYE, who wonder what all the fuss is about, to read this "10 trick" summary of what the journalist learned from his experience. Ask yourselves "Do you think that we have got the balance of "Liberty, Equality & Fraternity" right in the present arrangements?".

    http://web.mac.com/nickmorgan/HMRC/sunday_times.html

    Harry

    PS anyone know of a HMRC blogger telling it how it is like this woman in the police:
    http://pcbloggs.blogspot.com/
  • Mikeyorks wrote: »
    If you've read it (or tried to ... as the website is about as stable as the journalist) ........ you'd realise it's not of much use? 90% journalistic licence with the odd fact thrown in to confuse.

    It's obvious you simply don't know what you are talking about.
  • There is too much ad hominem argument.


    What this thread boils down to is:
    The government is spending way too much of our GDP, now rising towards 50%.
    The government is running at a major deficit and redundancies will be coming to the public sector, even if it is the IMF that will impose them.
    It has at least doubled the complexity of our tax system in an attempt to collect this level of tax, and to offer "incentives" to tax payers using their own money.
    Two different cultures have been forced together by the creation of HMR&C.
    The softly softly culture of the Revenue has lost out to the more macho culture of Customs.
    Computerisation has been used to impose a command and control culture (think police) on the Revenue collectors, who by definition must be over worked and under skilled. The individual officer has less scope for using his initiative hence situations where 10's of thousands are spent to collect a modest four figure sum.
    FAR MORE TO THE POINT person months of intelligent individuals' creative time is wasted, by both sides, on this loss making, money churning, incentivised, attempt to collect more tax.
    I would recommend everyone, especially those on PAYE, who wonder what all the fuss is about, to read this "10 trick" summary of what the journalist learned from his experience. Ask yourselves "Do you think that we have got the balance of "Liberty, Equality & Fraternity" right in the present arrangements?".



    Harry



    Well said.

    This thread is full of carping twits. And if there were less carping twits in this country and more people with some get up and go, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in and also be the laughing stock of most of the World.

    People outside the UK think this country is full of complete idiots and they are right.
  • OK a few points about the page. If I had all day I could probably write a very large list of things that are wrong with the website but I dont have all day.

    1. I would suggest you stop advertising your page and stop advertising that "tax for dummies" book at the end of every post you make as I believe this is against forum rules

    2. Get someone to check your spelling and proof read what you have written. There are a lot of mistakes.

    3. In the "16 things they don't want you to know" you mention that HMRC don't check all of the returns and opperate a process now and check later polcy. Please tell me how HMRC can check 9 million SA returns each year without spending more money on staff and resources? The whole point of SA is that you assess your self and 9 times out of 10 HMRC will trust you not to tell lies or be too incompetant to hire an accountant when you don't know how to fill in a return. I am sure if HMRC did attempt to hire enough staff to check every return, you would be one of the first journo's screaming and crying about how HMRC are spending our taxes and waisting it on too many staff.

    4. You mention how the burden of proof is on you and then go on to say some hypothetical situation about getting a cheque 4 years ago. I believe HMRC have it on their website that you must keep records for 5 years and some odd months after the end of the tax year. More so, the burden of proof should be on the tax payer. I wonder how you would expect HMRC to prove that you didn't have some random expense 4 years ago.

    5. The "commision" you are going on about has nothing to do with squeezing money out of people. The performance related bonus is for people who work hard, achieve targets and go above and beyond the call of duty when working in HMRC> Sounds pretty much like every other bonus scheme used by every other business or organisation everywhere. Also, you really shouldn't read the daily mail, they are biased and only interested in selling papers even if it means they embelish the truth a(lot) little.
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