Slimming World and OS real food dilemma

radiohelen

thriftlady wrote: »

but I do think you have to work at weight loss. I lost 4 st 20 years ago by keeping detailed calorie accounts (easier when you are cooking for one) but since then I have not only put it all back on again but I have resisted the doing the work. 'I'll just eat healthily' I'd say, or 'I'll just eat less of everything', 'I won't snack', 'I won't bake'. Those things never happened, I need to work at it,

I absolutely agree...losing weight is hard work - a lot harder than gaining it. That's why these plans are so seductive...they take the work out of it for you...no effort, no counting, no real food..........!!!!

I too lost a lot of weight a couple of years back with the help of a personal trainer, Andy Osbourne I think his name was, who was brilliant. He said to cut the carbs, eat low fat real food (no pre-packed stuff allowed) and workout like a demon...I did it and lost 3 stone...unfortunately I could concentrate on little else for the time I was doing it. 1 hour of weights - 45 minutes of hard cardio 5/6 times a week....plus steamed fish and green beans.:eek: There's a reason celebs do it - it works!

Now I've got a baby and I don't appear to have five minutes to pee let alone an hour and 45 to work out! So I've got to take a slower more measured approach.

Purpleclutterbuck

There are some very valid points and ideas -I wish I had more time to digest them (pardon the pun)!
I have to go out to see some friends and they are ordering a takeaway - but your comments have made me stop and think that maybe I can just pick and choose carefully and still enjoy myself without thinking what the heck!
Thankyou for making me realise that lots of people have problems with wanting to eat and with portion control - a healthy view puts me in control and not the food in control of me
Keep up the good work everyone and keep the sensible ideas coming

MrsE_2

npsmama wrote: »

Well done on your fantastic weightloss! :T That's really encouraging.

One problem I find is that say I make homemade pasta: that's white flour, eggs and water. White flour = syns. Eggs and water are free. So my homemade pasta would have syns.
But on a Green day I can eat as much shop-bought dried pasta as I like...yet that is also white flour.

Yes, that confuses me too:rolleyes:

redmel1621

The bread thing also confuses me, I mean, they say it is healthy eating plan, yet things like - HM Bread and Pasta are 'syns' and shop bought stuff, which is full of additives and preserves (far from 'healthy'), is considered free. I would consider that the HM products are far healthier???? It is bizarre!

I have been trying to follow SW at home, but am not doing very well on it at all. I am really unsure what to do now, as I really like the idea of eating os, and managing my weight that way; in reality I often need quick grab snacks, like the mugshots and alpen bars, and the like that are free or 'healthy extras' on SW.

Mel x

penguin83

I have been doing SW for 6 months and have lost 3st 2lbs so far. I never cooked before - literally never - if it didnt go in the microwave or out of a tin I was flummoxed! Now I cook all my own meals from scratch - still pretty basic but I am learning - I even made a SW Chicken Tikka Masala last week - was very proud.

So in a way SW has forced me to be more OS - I dont make my own bread and pasta (too advanced for me yet!) but I have pretty much cut these out anyway. I dont find the pasta in sauces and savoury rices filling enough so dont tend to bother with these. x x

tiddly_widdly

well done Penguin 83. I like SW. I have always cooked from scratch and dont have a problem with it. SW caters for cooks and non- cooks, hence the directories giving syn values for tins, jars and ready meals. I dont buy those as I never use them but all the recipe books cook from scratch and contain good food.
You can be OS and SW.

shaz_mum_of__2

mmh off to my first meeting tomorrow and now a little worried

I have followed ww in the past but a friend is doing sw and doing well and seems to eat loads

after reading this thread i am worried my "everyone eats the same at dinner" approach is not going to translate well to sw on ww we all have the same but some have more than others .....................i assumed sw would be the same ?

Shaz

zippychick

Bronnie wrote: »

There is a link on MSE somewhere to a website that you input age, sex weight and height and it gives your basal metabolic rate (ie the number of calories your body would need to exist if you simply lay on the bed all day! Add on to that calories for your daily activities and that is the figure to consume to maintain your weight. ) This amounts drops scarily from your fifties onwards, meaning you need to consume significantly less (or become significantly more active) to maintain.

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If you google basal metabolic rate you should find one - like this

I debated whether to go back to SW but am trying Paul Mckenna to see how that goes first. LIke yourself, I can't get my head round what happens afterwards? It doesn't help my relationship with food and encourages what I consider bad habits, so i am sussing out whether my sub conscious is actually as smart as PK says it is.:rolleyes: . However I am finding it hard to accept eating "what i want" is ok.

I see someone already posted, Lesson Laura, finish reading first!

Bronnie

I think your "in the mind" approach is a good one.

Haven't most of us here lost weight over the years and put it back on again? Why? Most of us are well-informed about what we should be eating and how much.

Why are we intelligent, well-informed capable women , who run homes, jobs and families so unable to put this simple plan into action for ourselves? Why do we push the 'self-destruct' button when we're in a certain frame of mind and a box of chocs, multi pack of crisps, whoopsied bag of doughnuts or even the unappetising-looking left-overs from your child's plate present themselves?

Why do we allow 2-3-4 or more stones of fat gather around our bodies when we've previously experienced being a healthy weight and known how great that feels? :huh:

I'm winning at the moment, have managed to lose 1 stone 10 lbs since January, another 10lbs would be great, but I'm feeling all the benefits now. However, the fat person will always be with me inside and while I'm feeling strong and positive now, I've been here before and let it slide......

Bitsy_Beans

zippychick wrote: »

I debated whether to go back to SW but am trying Paul Mckenna to see how that goes first. LIke yourself, I can't get my head round what happens afterwards? It doesn't help my relationship with food and encourages what I consider bad habits, so i am sussing out whether my sub conscious is actually as smart as PK says it is.:rolleyes: . However I am finding it hard to accept eating "what i want" is ok.

I think Paul McKenna does help poor relationship with food. I do the classic thing of thinking about food but when it comes to actually eating it then I shovel it in as quick as possible and don't actually savour it. Food should be tasted, something I don't take time to enjoy.
I agree with the principle of eating what you want - the reason I don't want to follow SW or WW is because they are restrictive and the minute I feel I can't have what I really want then the desire to actually have it becomes all consuming (gosh I sound like a mad woman don't I?!!!!).
What you need to remember with PK is this is changing your eating habits for life. There is no "afterwards". The reason there is an "afterwards" for WW and SW is the reason people yo-yo diet. You stick to an eating plan for 6 months, lose weight, go back to old habits and put weight back on. I don't want to do that to-ing and fro-ing (whilst lining the pockets of SW and WW). I want to sort out my bad habits for good and no longer have to worry about them.
Apologies that all reads a bit like a lecture. If you are happy with your diet plan (be it SW or WW) then good for you. PK like any change in habits requires effort and this is the one area I struggle with but am determined to do it.
Congrats to all who have successfully become slimmer and healthier :T