TV Licence article Discussion

Cornucopia

JohnJohn777 wrote: »

There are specific web sites where you can find links for live streams and you can watch football games via Ace Player HD if you've got installed one on your device. Sometimes you can find UK TV-streams but mostly they are Russian, Serbian, Arabic (like Bein Sports) and others.

As long as the feeds are obviously from outside the UK (based on logos, graphics & commentary), then there should be no need for a Licence. I should say that TV Licensing disagree with this reading of the law, but it is fairly clear to me.

Cornucopia

JohnJohn777 wrote: »

How about that topic Do I need a TV licence?

Is that applicable for my case?

Yes.

Their advice is wrong, based on my reading of the law, which is what I said.

My opinion is strengthened by the fact that their advice changed a couple of years ago (from agreeing with me, to what it is now), even though the law did not change. They do not make the law, they only interpret it, and in this case I think they have it wrong.

I can see that that is not very appealing as advice goes, in which case get a Licence.

EdwardB

Cornucopia wrote: »

Yes.

Their advice is wrong, based on my reading of the law, which is what I said.

My opinion is strengthened by the fact that their advice changed a couple of years ago (from agreeing with me, to what it is now), even though the law did not change. They do not make the law, they only interpret it, and in this case I think they have it wrong.

I can see that that is not very appealing as advice goes, in which case get a Licence.

Hi Cornucopia

Would be worth you trying to get an official line on what part of the law they are relying upon to make that statement.

I have seen it before where they say "any live transmission from anywhere in the world".

As opposed to streaming a la netflix

cw18

My son (who is LLF, having discovered while living with me for a few years that he could cope without live TV) asked me a question tonight I couldn't answer. And as I can't find anything obvious doing a quick Google, I thought I'd ask on here.....

He was using the BBC News App on his (android) phone, and there was a video linked to it he thought could be of interest. When he clicked to watch it he was told he needs to download and install BBC Media Player (not BBC iPlayer) to be able to watch it. Does he need a licence for this? I suspect the footage may be stored under the iPlayer umbrella, in which case the answer is likely to be yes (in which case he's not doing to download the App).

Cornucopia

The easiest approach is probably for LLF people to avoid BBC video content altogether, although I'm conscious that that isn't a very helpful answer.

The law talks about an "online programme service operated by the BBC". I don't think that these apps or free-standing videos are a "programme service", but IANAL.

The bigger clue, perhaps, is that they don't ask you whether you have a Licence or not (iPlayer does).

EdwardB

A TV Licence is only required if you are watching Live TV or iPlayer.

BBC Radio, World Service etc are free to the world, you will find media is stored elsewhere.

Download the app if it is required

As a precaution disable the iplayer by adding the URL's below to your Broadband Router, first one should be enough but the otthers will make sure.

Then any attempt to load iPlayer content fails, it may appear to start but no video is loaded.

Disable your SSID while you are there as TVL Goons latest gadget is recording SSID's

bbc.co.uk/iplayer/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/*
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/*
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/
bbc.co.uk/iplayer/


BTW !!!!!! IS LLF

https://www.internetslang.com/LLF-meaning-definition.asp

Cornucopia

EdwardB wrote: »

BTW !!!!!! IS LLF

Legally Licence-free.

LiminalSpace99

Hi
Number 5 You don't need a licence for Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube and more
But I can stream Sky News Live on Youtube... So, do I need a licence?
Many thanks

Cornucopia

LiminalSpace99 wrote: »

Hi
Number 5 You don't need a licence for Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube and more
But I can stream Sky News Live on Youtube... So, do I need a licence?
Many thanks

If it's the same as Sky News TV channel (on Freeview/Satellite) then yes, you need a Licence.

There are various News clips/newsreel services that you don't need a Licence for.

frecklepower

My wife and I currently watch very little live TV, and we have been considering stopping completely and getting rid of the TV license. We are moving house in about two weeks, and this seems a good opportunity to make this change.

However there is a complicating factor: we are converting one side of the house into an annex for my 80-year old mother. The annex will be in effect a fully functioning flat with its own front door, kitchen, bathroom etc, but is physically part of our house, and will use the same utilities, phone line and TV aerial input as the rest of the house. The work will take about six months, after which my mother will sell her current house, and move into the annex. My mother watches a lot of live TV, but currently in her own home does not need a license, as she is over 70.

At the point my mother moves in, would we be obliged to buy a license, because one member of our household watches live TV via our house phone line and/or TV aerial, even though we ourselves do not watch live TV, and even though that sole family member is over 70? Would we need to install a separate aerial and/or set up a separate phone account for my mother if we wanted to continue without a TV license?