TV Licence article Discussion

mickthemikeman

I Have been trying to remove the iplayer from PS4 but it still appears as an icon am I safe from TVL goons if they ever come with a search warrant and they click on it and download it. have they got me.Everything else is goon proof no sat dish no outside ariel and ariel socket has metal plate across it not allowing a lead to be inserted and TV detuned.

[Deleted User]

Can you password a PS4?

Cornucopia

PS4 is like a computer - everyone has the potential to watch TV using it. If you aren't actually doing so, you don't need a Licence.

If you want to be Goon proof, you could block the iPlayer URL on your router or using tools provided by some ISPs. The address to block is this:

a.files.bbci.co.uk

This blocks just the Live and Restart from Beginning features, leaving catch-up in place. I'm intending to identify a new URL that covers all of iPlayer in time for the change in the Law.

DavidP24

Crapita Goon Rules.

1. do not engage them (do not answer door)
2. do not let them in (should have been covered by 1 but hey)
3. do not answer a question (should have been covered by 1 but hey)
4. do not confirm or tell them your name.

To get a Court Ordered Warrant they need to have witnessed live TV from a window or if you let them in (which you are not going to do) or if you say something to incriminate yourself.

Even if they got access they have to have evidence you watched live TV not that you were capable, I always remove the capability to make my legal case iron clad,

I do this because there is evidence on YouTube that they LIE, they lost a court case where they said they witnessed an episode of Eastenders and quoted a plot that they say they saw, this was checked and found to be a lie.

So for the iplayer you might try updating it then remove power halfway through, then reboot with no internet, if iplayer is still present go to your router and create dummy IP addresses for Iplayer servers so it can't finish or connect when you restore network, you will need to find the server address it uses or just block the IP addresses for the BBC, so far I found they have this range registered

212.58.224.0 to 212.58.255.255

So block 212.58.x.x or create a route for it to a fake IP that will not resolve, like 10.1.2.3

Just saw post above

So they are using Akamai which complicates things, so best thing is to create entry in your router for

a.files.bbci.co.uk

give it an internal IP address, anything where it will timeout most routers use 192.168.1.1. so 192.168.1.250 would work and unlikely to be used.

if you ping


a.files.bbci.co.uk

it routes to

e3891.g.akamaiedge.net

Currently 23.195.69.117

You could block that but only if dedicated to BBC, otherwise anyone else that uses akamai may end up not working

so easiest to just reroute

a.files.bbci.co.uk

mickthemikeman

Thanks for the replies, I'm not too sure about messing with the router so I'll get my son to have a look at it.Thanks again you've been brilliant.

DavidP24

thelawnet wrote: »

The culture secretary wants to force people (by threat of law/imprisonment) to buy a tv licence to watch iplayer.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35708623

He also said people should have to look at ads on the internet, and not use ad blockers.

I think it is really important to put pressure on teh Culture & Media Secretary to move the BBC to an encrypted subscription service as I have suggested elsewhere in this thread. Please contact him via Twitter and refer him to the BBC's own research that says 60 MILLION people are watching BBC from outside the UK and not paying.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-33620341

If they got them to pay we would not even need to charge UK viewers as much, I think we have estimated 24m households in UK so with an additional 60m subscribers price could be £3 a month.

[Deleted User]

thelawnet wrote: »

The culture secretary wants to force people (by threat of law/imprisonment) to buy a tv licence to watch iplayer.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35708623

Where does it mention imprisonment :huh:

[Deleted User]

DavidP24 wrote: »

I think we have estimated 24m households in UK so with an additional 60m subscribers price could be £3 a month.

Are you proposing that each man, woman and child, should have to buy an individual subscription :huh:

DavidP24

The most common outcome for people that DO watch live TV without a license is prison because they do not have the money to pay fine.

The criminalisation of the offence will be removed in the upcoming legislation in return for extending TVL requirement to catchup and iPlayer

[Deleted User]

Actually, it's not the most common outcome, by a long chalk.

Of the around 180,000 people a year, convicted of LF evasion, only a tiny number (in the dozens) are jailed for not paying the fine.