EBay Fees REDUCED -Headline CON

andytran

I just got a message from EBay, headlining the fact that they have reduced their listing fees.
This is true, for example, on low price items, the fee has gone down from 15p to 10p.

HOWEVER, the conning gits have upped the final value sale price comission in every case.

Therefore, whilst you can save a few pence listing your items, you will now pay pounds more in final value fees.

EBay is getting to be really ridiculous. Surely its getting to the point where users should vote with their feet and support a different online auction - dont ask me which!

Shortly, sellers will lose the right to leave feedback on buyers, FVFs are increasing, Paypal charges additional fees and dumps you the minute a dispute is raised - all in all, shoddy service with extortionate fees and a total monopoly on the auction market.

I would love to leave them, but am waiting for a viable alternative - until then, I will continue to be ripped off and pay through the nose.

Think about it - it costs Ebay very little to host the service in comparison to the amount it generates every day - without risk!

Damn you Ebay, I wish I could go elsewhere but theres no option.......:mad:

Andy

gunsandbanjos

Have you tried ebid, a mass exodus of sellers would soon sort them out:mad:

I have one item finishing on ebay tomorrow and then i doubt i will use them again, certainly not as a seller anyway.

skintbutsmiling01

I've only just started selling on ebay- am pretty stumped by the fees - and all the horror stories I have heard about ebay and paypal and people being frauded etc- think I may check out this ebid see what the alternative is!

imagia

andytran wrote: »

HOWEVER, the conning gits have upped the final value sale price comission in every case.

Were you not aware of the boycott on this week? Personally I'm not protesting about the fees so much as the unbelievably foolish changes being made to feedback. Instead of fixing a broken system they've just broken it even more.

The truly slimy side of this is that all the changes are buried deep into the announcements section and as far as I know haven't been promoted at all on the homepage. When they then have the cheek to go on tv and say that fees are coming down, failing to mention the FVF that really does take the cake.

It won't happen overnight, but the move to competitors has already started. eBid and tazbar might not be full of the items you want now (or the buyers) but once small sellers like you and me start seeing how much eBay's (including PayPal) take has gone up, that will change.

gillybean129

I have just logged on to eBay and read the message, they make out like you rightly say that they're dropping fees, but the whopping hike in FVF is extortionate. I am so mad about it as I sell in small amounts but I would stand to lose around 30p per transaction, not much, but when you add it up think how much of my profit they're claiming yet again to line their pockets. The robbing dogs!!

I guess that as long as people keep using ebay it'll go on but I hate the fact they have the market gripped.

I have tried eBid without sucess in the past but it doesn't have the traffic eBay does, the problem is that eBay know this, it's time people walked, there is only one winner here and it's eBay

imagia

gillybean129 wrote: »

I guess that as long as people keep using ebay it'll go on but I hate the fact they have the market gripped.

Unfortunately the competition is not quite as good here as it is in the U.S. Hopefully there will be enough people jumping ship to competitors this week over there to start tipping the scales.

Over here though, I think it's up to the sellers to gradually move away from feebay. Leave your cynicism that nothing will change out of it. Keep running your greedbay listings but discretely inform buyers of your cheaper listings over on eBid or Tazbar. A note "do you want to buy the same item cheaper? email me!" on the listing would suffice. Nothing against the rules though.

People forget that eBay wasn't built in a day, and it's going to take time for the competitors to catch up. Just wait until January 09 and all those unwanted presents going on feebay. Let's see how people who are normally buyers like the new selling rules.

charlottevwa

I duno.... i may be the only one who still enjoys selling and buyingon ebay.. i love it!

soolin

imagia wrote: »

People forget that eBay wasn't built in a day, and it's going to take time for the competitors to catch up. Just wait until January 09 and all those unwanted presents going on feebay. Let's see how people who are normally buyers like the new selling rules.

This is odd, I replied to this before and my message disappeared.
Anyway, the problem is that the competition is not new, Ebid have been going for 8 years (Even I’ve been a member for about 3 years) and Tazbar has been going for approx 4-5 years and they can’t even dent ebay. Any real competiton like yahoo auctions and the old Freeserve auctions actually just gave up and recommended ebay to all their sellers.

GregtheHammer

I have been watching Tazbar for a few months, that is where I eventually will be heading.

The increase in FVF are massive & it will be interesting to see what happens when sellers get their first ebay billing with the new fees included. It will take a few months for a lot of people to realise just how much they are being ripped off, certainly once the neww feedback system kicks in.

It will be interesting to see how many small sellers are left by say November time. I do not think there will be a mass exodus straight away, more a steady trickle as the true costs become obvious. As eBay has got bigger so has the greed factor, shame it used to be a great place a few years ago.

Angie100

I was not aware of any changes to ebay t & c as I am in India at present and log onto ebay very rarely. Have just logged in and read all the announcements but could not see anything about sellers losing their rights to leave feedback for buyers. This is a ridiculous rule as sellers also have bad experiences with dishonest buyers. I always check a persons feedback when they bid for my items. I will stop using ebay I think as they only seem to want to protect their buyers and not their sellers which is where they make the bulk of their profit.

I stopped allowing paypal on my auctions because of the fees that we get charged and also because as a seller it is risky now as a buyer can purchase an the item, decide they didn't like it and put in a complaint and claim their money back. Paypal is of course also owned by the thieves that are ebay. Ebay are making money from every aspect of an auction.

imagia

soolin wrote: »

This is odd, I replied to this before and my message disappeared.
Anyway, the problem is that the competition is not new, Ebid have been going for 8 years (Even I’ve been a member for about 3 years) and Tazbar has been going for approx 4-5 years and they can’t even dent ebay. Any real competiton like yahoo auctions and the old Freeserve auctions actually just gave up and recommended ebay to all their sellers.

This is true, but then eBay has not been going bad all this time. Personally, I see it starting to go sideways when the big time advertising came along. Pushing eBay as a retailer is a mistake - it's a venue for a community of sellers, or at least it was until feebay got greedy.

Angie100 - I dug the page up for you:

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/businesscentre/2008bsrl/feedback-update.html