Euro Profile Cylinder locks not safe

Tobytony

Yale make an anti snap anti bump anti drill cylinder which is B.S rated and 1 star which is called the superior series

muckybutt

Why oh why dig up a thread from 2008 and where the last post was over a year ago ? Start a new one !!!!!! !

wazza

muckybutt wrote: »

Why oh why dig up a thread from 2008 and where the last post was over a year ago ? Start a new one !!!!!! !

Can't see no problem starting the old thread. Someone can see the history of it.

A_Couple_In_Love

So while this thread has been dug up again, is there any new locks out there that are 100% anti bump and snap proof?

anotherbaldrick

A_Couple_In_Love wrote: »

So while this thread has been dug up again, is there any new locks out there that are 100% anti bump and snap proof?

Yes . Google them ie; http://www.handlestore.com/category/cylinder-door-locks/all/

Norman_Castle

No idea about this company or website but it shows options.
http://www.lockandkey.co.uk/c/cylinder-locks-yale-locks-euro-cylinders?gclid=CK6mq_6mwb0CFVLItAodgicA2A

C_Mababejive

My work brings me into contact with professional locksmiths and i have asked them in the past about locksnappers and lock bumping. They all tell me that it is mostly marketing hype by those who have an interest in selling more expensive locks.

The very fact that they dont use it in the..err...course of our work...means that it isnt quick and viable. Invariably locksmiths use other techniques even with standard Euro cylinders such as attempting to pick the lock,then they may try and lasso the door or make a key or the end game,,drill out the cylinder. I have yet to see one apply a snapper or try bumping !

martyn05

I have been a locksmith for 3.5 years now, I own a complete set of bump keys but have only ever used this method twice. I always try to pick the lock manually before using any other techniques. I use my lock snapper whenever I need to, normally when inside a house (house owner has use of other door) because it can be a quick method to aid in getting the door open. Nobody wants a tradesman in their home longer than necessary, I try to get the job done in a timely manner using all the various options available to me.

I have only seen a few examples of where someone has tried to snap the lock from outside, it normally causes a right mess of the handles and gearbox.

I would suggest that people should always get the best locks that they can afford. If your house is worth £150,000 for instance, why would you protect it, its contents and your personal safety for a £4 lock?

anotherbaldrick

C_Mababejive wrote: »

My work brings me into contact with professional locksmiths and i have asked them in the past about locksnappers and lock bumping. They all tell me that it is mostly marketing hype by those who have an interest in selling more expensive locks.

The very fact that they dont use it in the..err...course of our work...means that it isnt quick and viable. Invariably locksmiths use other techniques even with standard Euro cylinders such as attempting to pick the lock,then they may try and lasso the door or make a key or the end game,,drill out the cylinder. I have yet to see one apply a snapper or try bumping !

The thing that troubles me is that on the web for the education of local pond life there are videos showing just how it is done , both bumping and snapping. Snapping is quick but makes a mess of the door and how would he know you had a anti snap cylinder fitted until he had trashed your door furniture ?

A.Penny.Saved

A_Couple_In_Love wrote: »

So while this thread has been dug up again, is there any new locks out there that are 100% anti bump and snap proof?

Advocet snap secure locks are about the best available. However 100% might be a bit optimistic because any door can be broken into, it's just a case of making it as difficult as possible.

C_Mababejive wrote: »

My work brings me into contact with professional locksmiths and i have asked them in the past about locksnappers and lock bumping. They all tell me that it is mostly marketing hype by those who have an interest in selling more expensive locks.

The very fact that they dont use it in the..err...course of our work...means that it isnt quick and viable. Invariably locksmiths use other techniques even with standard Euro cylinders such as attempting to pick the lock,then they may try and lasso the door or make a key or the end game,,drill out the cylinder. I have yet to see one apply a snapper or try bumping !

A locksmith would be trying to open a door with the least amount of damage. He won't be thanked or possibly even paid if he destroys the door and frames will he? A thief could not give a monkeys if the owner has to replace the locks, door, frames or the whole house providing he gets what he wants. It is just how quickly they can break in while attracting the least amount of attention. I don't think the two can be compared.

anotherbaldrick wrote: »

The thing that troubles me is that on the web for the education of local pond life there are videos showing just how it is done , both bumping and snapping. Snapping is quick but makes a mess of the door and how would he know you had a anti snap cylinder fitted until he had trashed your door furniture ?

Some can be identified by the lock name on the outside! I have Advocet snap secure locks which I fitted a couple of years back. They have the name on the outer lock face of the cylinder.