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Water4Petrol Water4cars -Scam or Miracle?

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  • Yes, it's too expensive and the government should lower the duty on it.
    Hi there,

    I think this information may help you out

    Have you ever heard of HHO fuel that has got to be the best way to save on gas prices.?
    ? Imagine the savings. It will cost you about $160, or two tanks of gas to install an HHO

    conversion kit

    Hydrogen Car Kit - Save Money and Improve MPG Massively
    Hydrogen car kit empowers your car to run on water and avoid oil as fuel. A vehicle however
    will not be able to run on water alone. There needs to be a mixture of gasoline and water to
    enable it to run smoothly.

    Even the Water Fuel Conversion Kits - How Using Water As Fuel Helps Cut Your Gas Consumption

    Recently,there is increased awareness among many drivers of a technology that uses plain

    water tosupplement the cars' gasoline consumption. Called a water fuel conversion kit, it is

    a simpleadd-on to your current car engine that uses your car battery to carry out an

    electrolysis on water to produce Hydroxy gas (HHO). This Hydroxy gas is used to supplement

    the burning ofgasoline in the car's engine.


    Hydrogen generator kit for car can be better than gasoline or oil additives to raise gas
    mileage. When you make or do it on your own, you can save money on gas but will save lots
    of dollars on the kit and reproduce the system for other automobiles on your own.

    saving money should be what everyonr thinks off and I have done this by using all ideas from
    my free Ebook - http://www.waterfuelkit.net

    I purchased the available eBooks that teach you how to run your car on water and installed

    one on my "chevy 350 small block," it's pretty easy.
  • redux
    redux Posts: 22,976 Forumite
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    :spam: reported to Abuse

    Isn't it time the Abuse team deleted this thread, to avoid attracting these conmen?

    edit - I've just been reading one of this pillock's websites

    He's got a device for sale on eBay, bid $480 at the moment, which makes 4 litres of gas a minute. That means in an hour it produces about 14 grams of hydrogen.

    If you assume the car uses 10 litres of petrol an hour at roughly 60 mph and 30 mpg (which is good for an American car, better than the big Chevrolet engine he mentions), that petrol weighs about 7 kg.

    Even though hydrogen has a better calorific output per unit weight than petrol (about 3 times), how on earth can adding about half a per cent extra fuel value increase the mpg from 28 to 38 mpg on a Honda Civic?

    energy from fuel used in an hour:

    Petrol: 7 kg x 48,000 kJ/kg = 336 MJ

    Hydrogen: 0.014 kg x 141,790 kJ/kg = 2 MJ

    apparently the cell uses 60 V x 30 A of electricity, nearly 2 kW, which will be 6.5 MJ in an hour

    which implies that electrolysis followed by burning is about 30% efficient overall

    that's if any of this spammer's claims are actually true, of course :rolleyes: :rotfl:


    and the electricity has to come from using more fuel in the engine, of course

    and that's the more expensive model , rather than the $80 for 2 jamjars version, which presumably has a much more paltry output
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    You can't run your car on water. It's an old urban myth (and occasional scam I believe).
  • BillScarab
    BillScarab Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    I run my car on water. It's a Land Rover so I fitted a 1000 litre tank to the loadbed, there's a tap the bottom of the tank. What happens is I open the tap and it operates a waterwheel fitted to the rear axle which thus drives the vehicle forward. Obviously I use a lot of water but luckily I'm not on a water meter!

    I find it works just as well as the nonsense you are suggesting. :rolleyes:
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  • Arfhurdaly
    Arfhurdaly Posts: 194 Forumite
    Why is it an urban myth?

    You could be right, but i heard it was on the lines of your car battery ignites, electrodes in a sodium-based liquid, the rise in temperature causes HHO which powers the car.
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
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    Oh dear another sucker there is one born every minute. The same people believe if we boycott Shell and BP we can force them to lower prices

    I tried to run my car in water and this is what I got

    car%20under%20water%5B1%5D.jpg
  • BillScarab
    BillScarab Posts: 6,027 Forumite
    Arfhurdaly wrote: »
    Why is it an urban myth?

    You could be right, but i heard it was on the lines of your car battery ignites, electrodes in a sodium-based liquid, the rise in temperature causes HHO which powers the car.

    Don't you think that if this actually worked effectively and reliably that companies would be manufactuirng cars like thi snow and we wouldn't be paying £6 a gallon? Or have the Illuminati been supressing it to keep oil prices high and line their pockets?

    If you look through this board you will see lots of explanations of why this doesn't work.
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  • patman99
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    Yes, it's too expensive and the government should lower the duty on it.
    It is quite feasible to run your car using water as the fuel.
    Use a steam engine.

    BTW, I have seen demonstrated on a tv program, a car that is powered by AIR (in fact, there is a car with a compresed-air powered engine sitting in a garage in Witham in Essex). This works on the same basic principle as a steam engine, but without the boiler & water tank.
    I can't imagine it would have much of a range though, If you displaced 5cfm of air per revolution, you would need a tank the size of a house to go any distance.
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  • Yes, it's too expensive and the government should lower the duty on it.
    patman99 wrote: »
    It is quite feasible to run your car using water as the fuel.
    Use a steam engine.

    Good job you weren't part of the industrial revolution with logic like that.
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