New Car No Tax Disc

Tozer

Sorry but that is a scary attitude. I don't like paying bucketfulls of tax but it is the law. If everyone took your attitude there would be absolute anarchy.

Imagine if rapists said "I don't like the rape laws so I will break them". Where do you draw the line?

cajef

Wig wrote: »

I disagree.

If I think a law is stupid, I have no qualms about breaking it.

If a stupid law (which when broken hurts no-one) prevents me from doing something which should be a simple task I have no problem breaking it or telling others to consider for themselves about breaking it.

So just because in your opinion a law is stupid it is OK to break it and advise others to do so, sorry but whether you think laws or stupid or otherwise, advocating someone else to break them on a public forum is even more stupid.

Laws are laws and I guess you would be the first to complain if someone broke one even if it did not affect you.

Wig

Tozer wrote: »

Sorry but that is a scary attitude. I don't like paying bucketfulls of tax but it is the law. If everyone took your attitude there would be absolute anarchy.

Imagine if rapists said "I don't like the rape laws so I will break them". Where do you draw the line?

I have news for you, rapists don't like the rape laws, and they do break them. They take a calculated risk on being caught. Some of them do not think the risk is worth it and only fantasise about rape.

Paying tax is not nice but for most people it cannot be avoided, it is taken at source. Self employed people can cook their books slightly and save a few pennies. Very rich people can use offshore loopholes. For any law there are people who take calculated risks to try to evade it.

I'll add one more point to my previuos reply, which is implied but not stated.

"It is legal to drive an untaxed vehicle newly purchased from a point of purchase to a place of storage" or sell 3 -7 day -unconditional- tax discs in the PO refundable if you subsequently tax your car within 1 week???? NO

OR, why not scrap tax discs all together and transfer the tax burden onto petrol? The motoring public will in theory pay no more than they do now, the frugal users will pay less and the guzzlers will pay more.

Tozer

You completely miss the point. Laws are not optional but MUST be followed for society to remain half-civilised. Your attitude is worryingly dangerous.

Wig

cajef wrote: »

So just because in your opinion a law is stupid it is OK to break it and advise others to do so, sorry but whether you think laws or stupid or otherwise, advocating someone else to break them on a public forum is even more stupid.!!

Why? It is up to each individual to decide for themselves if they want to break a law. I was only suggesting that to do it that way would not incur much risk.

Laws are laws and I guess you would be the first to complain if someone broke one even if it did not affect you.

Then you guess wrong, it would depend entirely on what the law was that was broken.

Wig

Tozer wrote: »

You completely miss the point. Laws are not optional but MUST be followed for society to remain half-civilised. Your attitude is worryingly dangerous.

Absolute rubbish. my attitude has been around since laws began.

Tozer

Wig wrote: »

Absolute rubbish. my attitude has been around since laws began.

Very, very scary. Not recommended approach for a public internet forum.

Cardelia

Tozer wrote: »

You completely miss the point. Laws are not optional but MUST be followed for society to remain half-civilised. Your attitude is worryingly dangerous.

Oh really? So if I was in York on a Sunday evening and spotted a Scotsman inside the city walls, it would be ok to shoot him with a bow and arrow? Provided, of course, I was on horseback at the time.

On a more serious note, if everyone had the same attitude as you (and cajef), then women would still be unable to vote, South Africa would still be under apartheid, homosexuality would still be illegal etc. etc. I find the attitude of 'laws are laws, end of story' to be even scarier than somebody suggesting that breaking a minor and stupid law might not be the end of the world.

Wig

Tozer wrote: »

Not recommended approach for a public internet forum.

Why ever not? You mean I shouldn't also talk loudly aout such things in the public street? I don't know about you but I think we have free speech in this country, and not thought police. You ought not to wrap yourself (and the internet) in cotton wool it a real world out there, no amount of cotton wool will protect you from it.

Wig

To Crabman,

If you're reading this, I think it could be moved to "discussion" as it has served it's purpose for the OP here, and has now changed into a discussion.