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bails

ajaxgeezer wrote: »

.........me and you against the world, kid.

Oh no, no, no don't be leaving me out of the Naughty Posse Love your sig Ajax, v funny! Great news on your windfall too!

Thanks so much for the bra info Vix, will be keeping that for next time...
Had loads to respond to but have now forgotten all of it (blummin short term memory loss!:rolleyes:)
Thanks for the advice Missy, I will give that a go and see if it helps. I think having a plan before I get there is the way forward or I'll just go crazy in there and then pay for it!
Victory, thankyou for sharing your thoughts on your eating. I too struggle to have things in the house - OH has his own cupboard for foods I can't really eat. This works okay sometimes, sometimes not. He is also really supportive and keeps hold of treats for me so they're not freely available. I find it quite a sad state to be in, but that's the way it has to be for now, maybe it won't always be that way. With your DS, could you not just buy a small selection of treats when he has a sleepover, enough for them to have and not leave any? It's such a fine line with children, I'm dreading it and of course my only experience is my own childhood and the many children I have taught with eating issues. Is there a way to keep your notes etc more private so that the messages are for you and not the whole family? It is such a difficult one
What is it you miss about the 'eating for England' days? Do you eat during or after feeling resentful about people who can 'eat what they want'? Just a couple more things to think about... I really admire you for taking this on, Victory x

Was just about to pay for the Race for Life, it's £12.50 and I thought, I wonder how much of this actually goes to charity? I appreciate that organising the races etc costs money etc and I have no problem with this, but perhaps it would be better for me personally to do something else and then be able to give all my money directly to Cancer Research? I want to achieve this 5k as a milestone in my recovery, that's my main motivation, and contribute to a charity as well. Another negative side to the actual races is that it might be a painful reminder of 'before' and take away from the celebration of what I can now achieve. So I'm thinking of just organising my own event-for-one, or should I go for the solidarity factor and do it with other people??

Brighton_belle

bails wrote: »

Was just about to pay for the Race for Life, it's £12.50 and I thought, I wonder how much of this actually goes to charity? I appreciate that organising the races etc costs money etc and I have no problem with this, but perhaps it would be better for me personally to do something else and then be able to give all my money directly to Cancer Research? I want to achieve this 5k as a milestone in my recovery, that's my main motivation, and contribute to a charity as well. Another negative side to the actual races is that it might be a painful reminder of 'before' and take away from the celebration of what I can now achieve. So I'm thinking of just organising my own event-for-one, or should I go for the solidarity factor and do it with other people??

Bails, the race for life website says the £12.50 is for the race admin, so that all the money you/others raise by sponsorship goes to the to the charity.
Difficult choice, particularly if you are anything like me, and I suspect you are, that your priority needs vary from week to week - sometimes the being involved/solidarity factor is the most important, and others, not having to effectively 'watch from the side lines' something you crave to be doing yourself. I have half considered it myself (walking it obviously,) after your enthusiasm but with my knees now not recovering at all, I think it's a case of taking things a day at a time for me. We would beup on the downs in todays glorious weather normally:rolleyes: . (On the plus side OH is actually using the time instead toiling over a job aplication : he's had real confidence issues around applying for work these last couple of years since being made redundant, and it's very significant that he has 4 he is going to fill in this weekend. That's more than all of last year)
Victory - can I add my admiration to bails' for your tackling the psychology side of food and you. Total respect for your honesty during this process. I wouldn't see your OH as a secret eater, but see this as a loving strategy that sees both your needs met. Perhaps slightly different for the kids, but I feel unqualified to suggest anything there.

Waiting with trepidation to hear from Delly: it's crunch time with the in laws coming home today...

Cazzdevil

victory wrote: »

crumbs I have created a family of secret eaters:rotfl:

Or alternatively they're being sympathetic to your needs. It's not very helpful if everyone's eating junk in front of you, so view it that way

Suzy-Qu

Welcome cazzdevil and eiluj321. Good luck for the week.:wave:

Victory I know the feeling with teenage boys. My son has just started a full time job this week and for the first time ever actually wants to take in a packed lunch. So I've been sending him in with rolls, a packet of crisps, a chocolate biscuit and 2 bottles of water.

However, this is the first time in ages that I've bought stuff like crisps and chocolate biscuits in the house. Then found on a few occasions that I'd dip into them myself - always in the evening when I'm a bit tired. Never earlier in the day.

So today I've bought myself some low fat pretzels, and little muesli bars and actually thinking about it, I could get these for him too. Think I will!;)

missyg_3

Nothing too exciting for me this weekend, family visit tomorrow but other than that staying in and looking for more things for ebay! I am up to £822 in 2008 so far, just for selling stuff I no longer want/use! Hoping to reach £1000 soon, that would be so cool.

I've been very good this week with food and exercise and even though I'm having a meal with the family tomorrow, I'm still hoping for my first STS at Monday's weigh in but we'll see how the weekend goes in general

Vix, thank you for the VERY detailed bra advice you kindly posted for us ladies, it's great to see someone so knowledgeable and passionate about what they do A lot of what you have written is the same advice I've been given at my local Debenhams too so it's good to see consistency.

Cazzdevil, 34E sounds like a nice size, what were you before that made you so gutted about it? I was last measured at 30E (down from 32F) and I know I'm small around the back but I love my E cups and I'd hate to lose any more in the cup! Have fun with the biking or whatever you decide to do!

Eiluj321 what do you mean, of COURSE we want you! Thanks for joining us, we'll look forward to hearing more from you.

Victory, it must be very difficult for you at home. There must be a way you can work towards disassociating your eating habits from the rest of your family to stop you feeling bad, and for them to be respectful of your situation without having to feel deprived themselves. There has to be a happy medium somewhere and I'm sure you'll find it!

Re Race for Life Bails, are there any accounts to show what the event has raised in previous years? I'm sure on balance the fundraising is huge. I think you should put your own needs first here, forget about how much goes to charity for now and decide whether this event is going to be helpful or a setback to your recovery, all things considered. If then you're worried the contribution to charity isn't "enough", that's a secondary, separate consideration in my opinion - you could look at the £12.50 spent as an investment in your recovery, and try to match the amount for a personal charity donation perhaps?

missyg_3

BB, forgot to add the family history book went down an absolute treat yesterday! Thank you so much for that idea!

victory

Victory, thankyou for sharing your thoughts on your eating. I too struggle to have things in the house - OH has his own cupboard for foods I can't really eat. This works okay sometimes, sometimes not. He is also really supportive and keeps hold of treats for me so they're not freely available. I find it quite a sad state to be in, but that's the way it has to be for now, maybe it won't always be that way. With your DS, could you not just buy a small selection of treats when he has a sleepover, enough for them to have and not leave any? It's such a fine line with children, I'm dreading it and of course my only experience is my own childhood and the many children I have taught with eating issues. Is there a way to keep your notes etc more private so that the messages are for you and not the whole family? It is such a difficult one
What is it you miss about the 'eating for England' days? Do you eat during or after feeling resentful about people who can 'eat what they want'? Just a couple more things to think about... I really admire you for taking this on, Victory x

H is going to be (as I think missyg made the point of) my food allocator if needs be in the sense of sugar,sweets etc, which worked just fine the other day with one choc eclair, left to my own devises whether I am later to feel bad or not I will eat as many as I fancy and then after the consequences come:D

So, one prob is sorted, H is responsible for me so to speak for now, having food in a special seperate cupboard, in the shed, etc does not work for me, it makes me feel uneasy and all I think of is I know where it is but H will take over that for me, sleep overs etc yes get some in but a little, I mean we are still eating the quality street tin from xmas:rotfl: :rotfl:

I don't have any problems with buying them the stuff I know for a fact I cannot eat like the pancakes with treacle the other day, even I know however much I wanted to eat treacle as I did pre diabetic I could never get away with the sugar now and would end up in hospital, that and all the cream cakes, etc all of the heavy laden sugar stuffs are not a threat to me, I buy them as a treat for them,they cannot be eaten by me, end of, H says that DS can have all that stuff and more if he so wishes but it should be considered as a treat at the weekends with the pocket money not every hour every day.

To me it is the savoury stuff, the portion sizes, the not so sugary sugars like twix or drifters (what I know I can get away with albeit it that the numbers rise and rise) etc that pose the problem not double choc gateaux!!

What I miss about eating for England is the fullness, the belly pork the bacon, the white bread, the supposedly freedom of eating what I wanted when I wanted but the negatives to that are the slobbiness, laziness lying on the settee after a heavy meal not having any energy to move, no interaction with the kids or family, just eating, over eating, sitting,the amount of bad wrong foods alienated me from the rest of the family as they are always active, sporty, outdoors and asked me to go and I always make an excuse and said no, missed out a lot on the kids as they went off with either their father or with other friends, I do not miss that as now it is even me that suggests we go for a walk:rotfl: I don't miss the weight I carried around my stomach. the lack of clothes, the not wanting to go out, the misery, the gasses, etc but I do miss not having to think about food every single second, clock watch to the next amount of food allocated to me by insulin constraints.....

The resentment builds up it is not every day or week but comes to a head and explodes in a childish rebellious I am eating what I want and however much I want and no one is going to stop me kind of attitude so in answer it is not during, I guess it is after, builds up so after. I feel I have been good for x days weeks now I am going for it but that I have to change because what I am eating/drinking etc is good for me for the whole insulin, healthy, cholestrol, high blood pressure, heart etc equation so I have to give up the resentment and treat it as a gift rather than a hinderance.

I have proved to myself my childish food outbursts only make me unhappy, ill, sick, unable to concentrate so they bring a whole heap of negatives and not one positive, they initially make me feel euphoric or part of the rest of them or joining in or at one whatever but then the negatives by far outway the positives.

There is a balance I have not found yet, better to have a little and enjoy guilt free than go overboard and only make myself unwell and have to recover for a day or so.

victory

cazz yes my family are good to me, junk food eaten outside of the house is lovely of them, just don't want them to feel that because of me they have to be concerned about what they eat and where they eat it:D

missyg I have to see my eating habits as the best ones the ones that keep you healthy and away from the docs sugery, the family miss the sausage rolls, pizzas, crisps, choc biscuits that type of stuff that they had before and I no longer buy, I do buy chicken pie still as I do not like it and the kids think that is a luxury dinner now!!

suzy kids are adaptable, I am sure your DS will enjoy the muesli bars etc if he gets them in his lunch, my kids love the ryvita cheese and chive packets of crisps, the alpen bars, carrot sticks with a home made dip, muller light yogurts,mini bags of snack raisins,bananas, apples, I just find that if I buy the bad, I eat the bad, day or night as I know it is there so best kept away from shops, the cupboards, life lol xxx

bb thank you xx

beanielou

My newish find is Walkers Sunbites~They are a snack~wheat rice & maize.About 110 cals a packet.
There are different flavours.
I quite often have them in the morning with a bannana for breakie.
I dont like breakfast & have to really force myself to eat it.

beanielou

Granny~Hope OFSTEAD went well for you & you can now enjoy your weekend.