Almay, Amivo, IBS what are they about?

Turning_into_scrooge

BMSGuy wrote:

Sorry, trouble with whom? The water companies? Oh! bring it on. Midwife told me about the water for infants and a consultant oncologist for the lowered immune system. Their words not mine but I can't prove that to you.

Pooh in the water. Water from rivers? Filtered yeah right.
Phosphates. What are they? Animal Pooh. Therefore pooh in the water. That is basic science and I am not a biochemist.

No offence and I wouldn't want to get you into trouble. Why don't you come out with it and tell me to shut up!

Probably because i am enjoying this thread and argument.:rotfl: Oh and just to set the record straight yes i do get out, i don't stay in all the time.

Turning_into_scrooge

BFG wrote:

Ah..so much anger from BMS.

Come on everyone, he's just some guy selling way way overpriced tatt (unnecessary vits, unnecessary water filters, unnecessary magic frying pans (£300), way too expensive washing powder, and training tools, oops sorry, aids).

He just works for a business that has been riddled with scandal and scamming since inception, that promises a lot to people and delivers virtually nothing to anyone (and charges them for it), and that has been compared time and again to a dangerous brain washing religous cult

I leave you to make up your own mind..read his posts, read mine (and others) and make your free choice.

Each time he posts it adds to my argument!!!!

My work here is done

Love it :beer:

Sarahsaver

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2047951.cms

Article from the Times of India, it was in the high court, not your standad enquiry I think :eek:

Angel2

This is aimed at BMSGuy, although I hope he doesn’t read it.

You are dealing here with some good people but also people who are largely negative in outlook and entirely ignorant of the subject on which they speak. You won’t be able to persuade them otherwise.

I implore you to have no more to do with this forum but to concentrate on building people up, not knocking them down, as too often goes on here. I believe this website can be excellent (for money saving tips) but several contributors on this forum are negatively indoctrinated and are, in a way, operating a scam themselves to attempt to stop people earning money, not just saving money. Remember they have no need to be responsible or accountable for what they write.

You, BMSGuy, are more than able to build a large, ethical business (as is anyone, in truth) so please come away from the ignorant critics and go all out to help people do more with their lives and, yes, succeed.

I hope we meet up one day.

Oh, and if you want me to sign off (finally) with a catch phrase, I have two:

“Success is the best revenge.”

(People will know without you telling them)

And

“The critic is always drowned out by the sound of people doing the thing they criticise.”

Best Wishes.

mrcow

Angel2 wrote:

This is aimed at BMSGuy, although I hope he doesn’t read it.

Then why write it? And seek out this thread to bump it?

Seems like a waste of effort?


As you have correctly stated, this is a moneysaving site, so I will advise you:

If you do "bump into" BMSGuy don't have your wallet on you....and don't sign anything! He's a salesman (not a very good one judging by the content on his sales pitch here!) and will try and sell you some overpriced saucepans.

Oh also another tip (if you do ever happen to bump into him?) he's also proven himself to be quite offensive to people, so it's best to be prepared. :T

BFG_2

Angel2 and BMSguy...what a lovely couple they make.

Every heard such claptrap in your life??...eg "..several contributors on this forum are negatively indoctrinated ..."...what American cult have you been indoctrinated by?

Or howabout "..You, BMSGuy, are more than able to build a large, ethical business..."....yesh, by selling way overpirced non-essential tatt, using health scare tactices and preying on vulnerable people to sign them up as 'agents/downline/whatever'....gee, that sounds like a real ethical type guy, NOT!!!

Angle2, you've told us twice now that you're going to go and never post again, either do it or stop telling us you're going to do it. Haven't your mind masters explained there is a big difference between saying you're going to do something and actually doing it. You would think that a real go-getter like you would have done been able to deliver on your promises, but then again...??

Since you seem to like trite quotes, here's one that rings so true of Scamway....it was Goebbels (IIRC) who said 'Tell a big lie and tell it often enough and eventually people will believe it'...maybe that's why Scamway et al trawl the net looking for discussion groups on which to post how great their "magic money making system" is.

Unlike you I am not threatening to 'go away and never speak again because you are all negative mind force fielded indoctrinated no work ethic not for you scammers' ...instead i'm staying and posting about anything I feel is unjustified, etc.

My work here is not done.

MickKnipfler

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midzjoe

Hi, first post here. Thought I'd share my experiences with IBS/Amway.

My friend who is with IBS managed to get me to one of their meetings some months back. I'd never heard of the company but was intrigued about the offer of a "fantastic business opportunity".

The presentation given was impressive. The guy presenting took great pleasure in explaining how the business works, how much we could earn and also stating how he quit his day job and now travels the world.

I'm naturally sceptical, but because I trusted my friend not get me involved with anything dodgy, I went along with it for the time being, albeit with a pinch of salt.

It wasn't until I started doing some digging on the net that I decided not to take any further proceedings with them.

I will however use my friend as an example; he's been with them for about six months now. I obviously tried to warn him but it fell on deaf ears. After some persistence I persuaded him to just be careful with it.

Six months down the line and he's far from making any money. I don't know the exact facts and figures but he's given me a rough idea of what goes on.

He seems to have spent a small fortune attending seminars, which are something like £100 a pop and more for the overnight ones. Then there are the books, CDs, signup costs and introduction packs etc. Not to mention all the travelling costs. I think he's managed to get a few people underneath him now, although he hasn't seen a significant return from this - some minimal amount like £15. I'd guess he's probably spent over £500, and that's with him treading carefully. I'll ask when I see him next.

After his starter pack, he decided not to buy any more products, instead just concentrate on signing more people up. This speaks volumes in my opinion.

I can see why they get compared to cults. The presentation I saw was very motivational and believable. It reminded me of one of those scam auctions where the con-artists sell worthless junk and the audience will buy it all, hoping they will get the bargains promised at the end. IBS are the same, they play on peoples dreams.

It all boils down to if they make the substantial amounts of money we're lead to believe. No matter how many magic frying pans (with lids) they sell to friends, family and neighbours, or how many people they get in their downstream, it just doesn't happen. As someone pointed out another website I read – the sums simply don't add up.

I think all these brainwashed followers would defend them to the death. They all spew out the same rubbish. If they were that desperate to prove it's worthwhile, they'd be posting their bank balances and pictures of luxury cars.

As it happens, the lady who owned the house where I viewed the presentation was quite high up on the pyramid (whoops sorry, ladder!). Let's just say the area she lived and her furnishings left a lot to be desired. Strange for someone who has made it big time?

I could go into more detail about some of the bull**** I was fed, but have got better things to be doing.

Hopefully the Internet will be the death of these people. Stay clear.

mrcow

Thanks for your helpful and informative post. Hopefully you'll help to prevent anyone else who reads this getting scammed out of their hard earned cash by these chancers.

And welcome to the forum! ;)

jpvic

Thanks for bumping this! Great read.

BMSGuy wrote:

Transparent waffle...

He shot himself in the foot every time he posted!!!

Wonderfull!








lol internet [with lids]