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too true this is a site to help one another not slag people off . eveyone has their own opinion.
Of course everyone has thier own opinion, but surely you can see the irony in someone supposedly involved in dog rescue being biased & discriminating against a particular breed by calling it a 'beast' and making blanket statements that Rottweilers are not family pets, just because SHE doesn't like them.
Wouldn't you expect someone involved in dog rescue to at least be a bit impartial and compassionate REGARDLESS of breed?0 -
Wouldn't you expect someone involved in dog rescue to at least be a bit impartial and compassionate REGARDLESS of breed?
I have said that i would love to foster a Rottie when my kids are either older or left home. I have not said i hate the breed, i like them, they are in my opinion not suitable for kids.0 -
relay i know what you are saying but the trouble with it all is rotties do get press because of a****holes who use them as guard dogs and do not socialise them let alone give them exercise.people need to think long and hard before they get certain breeds not just because they are fashionable and as for rescue how could battersea rehome a rottie who was a year old when he got her and drags him up the road to him just because he had got one before.this chap is in early seventies and if that dog wanted to go which it has twice now there is nothing he can do to stop it.me and my mate grabbed her and she was ok to us but would have bowled my jack russell over maybe causing an injury so as for rescues they need to be looked at who they give these dogs to.Before you point fingers,make sure your hands are clean !;)0
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relay i know what you are saying but the trouble with it all is rotties do get press because of a****holes who use them as guard dogs and do not socialise them let alone give them exercise.people need to think long and hard before they get certain breeds not just because they are fashionable and as for rescue how could battersea rehome a rottie who was a year old when he got her and drags him up the road to him just because he had got one before.this chap is in early seventies and if that dog wanted to go which it has twice now there is nothing he can do to stop it.me and my mate grabbed her and she was ok to us but would have bowled my jack russell over maybe causing an injury so as for rescues they need to be looked at who they give these dogs to.
Absolutely and with other breeds even if/when they bite, you can grab them and get them away from the victim, but with a 20 stone Rottie you can't, it took several police marksman to shoot the dog dead in order for help to get to the boy who was killed by that Rottie the other week. The risks are not worth it. They are nice looking dogs and in the right home can be great companions.0 -
Kimberly, to be honest with you I would expect the sort of narrow minded ignorance you have shown from some quarters of the public, but when it is coming from somebody in rescue who quite frankly should know better, and who is in a position where they could be educating the public but instead choses to spread anti-Rottweiler propoganda it is rather hypocritical.
"Until there are none, rescue one" - unless they happen to be Rottweilers.
You better than anyone should know how many Rottweilers exactly like the one in this thread are being dumped on the doorstep of rescue centres up and down the country every week & you could be urging the OP to encourage her friend to be a responsible owner and get the dog the assessment and training all 4 month old puppies need so that it does not end up as another statistic in a rescue centre that people like you end up having to take responsibility for.
Instead you are using media hysteria to vilify a particular breed with exaggerated and extorted half truths & scaremongering just because you personally don't like this particular breed. I am trying to understand where you are coming from but quite honestly i find it rather disturbing that someone in the business of animal welfare should have such ill informed views and prejudices against breed.
So far you have branded Rottweilers as 'Beasts', you have made blanket statements that they are not a family pet just because you don't like them, and you have as good as called anyone with children who owns a Rotty 'insane'. Perhaps you should give responsible parents who own Rottweilers a bit more credit & stop getting carried away with your own ignorance & media sensation.
20 Stone Rotty indeed, wouldn't be exaggerating a teensy bit to make a certain breed sound like the big bad wolf by any chance? Blessed are the ignorant. LOL0 -
A 20 stone Rottie? It would be so fat it wouldn't be able to walk, you'd be able to give it a shove and it would roll away from you. 10 stone would be big for a Rottie. Unless we are talking about some rare Rottweiler/ Hippo cross breed.When I had my loft converted back into a loft, the neighbours came around and scoffed, and called me retro.0
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It seems to me that the vast majority of problems with dogs really come down to people owning them who just do not understand what makes their dog tick. This applies to whether you have a pure bred pedigree, a crossbreed or a dog of entirely unknown ancestry.
In the case of pure breds and to some extent crossbreeds, the dog will display certain traits, depending on the purpose for which the breed was developed over, in some cases, centuries. People who take on these dogs without a clear understanding of how the dog's instincts are going to encourage it to behave very often find the dog more than they can cope with if they do not know how the dog needs to be trained or how to give it what it needs to be happy. A simple example of this is someone who takes on a dog that really needs a lot of exercise and lots of mental stimulation, but then proceeds to only walk it once a day, round the block on lead, and never engages it in activities which challenge the dog's mind.
Moreover, in the case of any dog, from bred in the purple to former street urchin, owners really have to know how to read their dog and its' body language. If you know what you're looking for, dogs can be pretty transparent as to their intentions by the way they are standing, the types of noises they are making etc. It's incumbant on the owner to be able to interpret this language and act accordingly. Sadly, many owners just don't have a clue what their dogs are telling them, nor do they have clue about what in a dog's array of behaviours is normal or not, nor how to train a dog to desist from normal dog behaviours that are socially unacceptable.
Also, in addition to the general dogginess of the dog, people have to understand that on top of that the dog will have its own distinct personality which affects its behaviour. I have three of the same breed who all share the same basic characteristics, but each has a very different personality, which means that there are subtle differences in the way each individual is handled.
Once you add in people who buy a dog on the basis of image and have no understanding of all of the above, then you can see how situations get out of hand, sadly, sometimes with dreadful consequences. This image buying doesn't just apply to macho types, who get so called "hard breeds", but, for example, to silly girlies who buy "ickle cute chihuahuas" etc and then wonder why Blossom has turned into a snarling, snapping, out of control little bundle of menace.
As the Kennel Club says, "hate the deed, not the breed".
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Bleedin ell Relay, are you not listening to me :rolleyes:
I said and i repeat i said that i like Rotties and would foster one when my kids are older or left home. Now it is my right to not foster Rotties whilst my kids are young. I said in my opinion i wouldn't have one around kids MY OPINION. Now in YOUR OPINION you would. You don't see me insulting you
Some people have them around kids and some don't.0 -
A 20 stone Rottie? It would be so fat it wouldn't be able to walk, you'd be able to give it a shove and it would roll away from you. 10 stone would be big for a Rottie. Unless we are talking about some rare Rottweiler/ Hippo cross breed.
I was being sarky pboae :rolleyes: The dog that killed that little boy was 10+ stone, it took police marksman to shoot it dead before they could get to the boy. No way would i want a dog like that near kids, because they can turn at anytime. Yes so could other breeds, but some other breed of dog are easier to control if they turn.0 -
I was being sarky Georgie :rolleyes:
We can't be sure how big the rottie was, or how many marksmen it took to euthanase it. Don't believe everything your read!It is impossible to comment on the case, because none of us were there.
Rotties are as likely to 'turn at any time' as any other dog. I can understand that as you have children, that you can only foster dogs who are likely to be child-friendly, in the same way that someone who has cats would only foster dogs known to be tolerant of cats, and I'm sure rescues test their dogs as far as practicable to ensure they go to the most appropriate foster homes. But at the end of the day, without knowing its history, surely no dog can be fully 'trusted' until it has been in a home for quite some time, and exposed to lots of different stimuli? Even a supposedly friendly lab could have been tormented by children in the past, and one day 'turn' if provoked?"No matter how little money and how few possesions you own, having a dog makes you rich." - Louis Sabin0
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