PAYG Extremely High

gallops_123

Hi all

I live in a 1 bedroom flat with my partner and our PAYG electricity seems extremely high. It is an all electric flat with no central heating. We use 1 plug in heater in the evening occasionally (only when absolutely necessary), we have an immersion heater but this is on a timer to come on between 5-7am and 4-5pm. Apart from this, we only use the normal amount of power, tv in the evenings, boiling kettle, cooking etc.

Our estimated energy for the year is 7066 day and 1510 night. Does this seem right? Any help would be great

Ayr_Rage

What is your ACTUAL use in kWh?

Slinky

Seems a lot, I take it you are on Economy 7. I would bang that 4-5pm hot water on the head. There's two of us here and I heat our hot water tank overnight for an hour (tops) just before morning showers. Plenty of hot water still available throughout the day.

Do you have storage heaters? If so they should be running on overnight rates. Your plug in heater is likely to be consuming a lot, simply because they do whenevere you use them.

If you have got storage heaters and they are running overnight, it could be that your meters have been set up to bill the wrong way round and you're being billed daytime rates at nighttime and vice versa. This happened to us. It's called transposed meters. You can check by turning everything off, then putting a kettle on to boil and seeing which meter is moving.

Otherwise if you don't have storage heaters, you're on the wrong tariff if you are using most of the electricity during the day.

WiserMiser

Welcome to the forum.

If you're only using plug-in heaters, you shouldn't be on a multi-rate tariff such as Economy 7. Instant electric heating is one of the most expensive ways to heat a property, and the day rate on E7 will be even more expensive than single rate.

Right now, change to single rate.

More info would help.

Do you own or rent? Is this your forever home, or are you likely to move in perhaps five years' time? Was there absolutely no heating when you moved in, e.g. night storage heaters?

Forget Estimated Annual Consumption, it can be way out. Instead, take weekly readings and keep your own records.

MattMattMattUK

I use less electricity than that per year in an all electric flat and that includes charging an EV so you can safely ignore those annual figures.

As others have said you should not be running an immersion at all during peak times, that defeats the option of being on E7 and will cost you a lot of money. Other questions with storage heaters etc. need to be answered before anyone can really help.

gallops_123

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81916993#Comment_81916993

I'm not 100% sure as each month says 'estimated'. I have asked Eon Next why they all say estimated but they can't seem to give me an answer.

gallops_123

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81916994#Comment_81916994

We don't have storage heaters, the only heating is the one electric plug in heater

I think we have an economy 7 meter but we have the same rate for day and night.

EssexHebridean

Read your meter is the first step IMO. See if the actual figures match with those estimated figures.

Are you actually having to top up with the amount they are suggesting that you are?

Swipe

Your estimated day usage is very high. That's almost double my night usage and I use storage heaters for heating.

gallops_123

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81917109#Comment_81917109

Yes, it's costing a fortune, those figures aren't including the VAT and standing charge. I have colleagues who have 3-4 bedroom houses with children and they don't pay anywhere near what I pay. I have tried speaking to Eon Next but not very helpful at all

Robin9

As both the day and night rates are the same at 27.03 it doesn't matter when you run your immersion heater.

Another page of your bill will show the meter readings used - what are they please - include any letter A C E S or our /your read. If there is an E that means estimated.

Can you read the meter yourself - you may have to press a button to find R1 and R2 - there may be lots of figures.