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Now Broadband up for renewal. Time to move to Full Fibre

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  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 14,292 Forumite
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    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
  • flaneurs_lobster
    flaneurs_lobster Posts: 8,647 Forumite
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    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
  • Eldi_Dos
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    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
    It will be the duct route's and wayleaves that are the attraction, if you can stage a takeover at the right time and get these assets at way below cost of installation it becomes an attractive proposition.

    Well at least for one set of shareholder's.
    Play with the expectation of winning not the fear of failure.    S.Clarke
  • flaneurs_lobster
    flaneurs_lobster Posts: 8,647 Forumite
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    Eldi_Dos said:
    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
    It will be the duct route's and wayleaves that are the attraction, if you can stage a takeover at the right time and get these assets at way below cost of installation it becomes an attractive proposition.

    Well at least for one set of shareholder's.
    Agreed, although CityFibre have recently secured more finance from their investors and are also looking to M&A to swallow a few smaller rivals

    https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2025/06/cityfibre-close-to-2bn-funding-deal-for-uk-full-fibre-broadband-plans.html#:~:text=CityFibre%20Close%20to%20%C2%A32bn%20Funding,UK%20Full%20Fibre%20Broadband%20Plans&text=The%20operator's%20existing%20funding%20is,the%20end%20of%20July%202025.
  • shiraz99
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    So, as an update I've ordered Sky 150 full fibre to be installed in a couple of weeks time. My only issue is that I don't want the fibre coming in at the same point as my current copper line as there isn't a spare plug socket in that location. Will Openreach be flexible and install the line around the side of the house to where I want it? I have a house with a bay front so the line would have to take a couple of turns before dropping down to where I want it.
  • iniltous
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    shiraz99 said:
    So, as an update I've ordered Sky 150 full fibre to be installed in a couple of weeks time. My only issue is that I don't want the fibre coming in at the same point as my current copper line as there isn't a spare plug socket in that location. Will Openreach be flexible and install the line around the side of the house to where I want it? I have a house with a bay front so the line would have to take a couple of turns before dropping down to where I want it.
    Probably, unless what you want would be far too time consuming, or require unsafe working , then the ONT can go (to a certain extent) were you want it…not being near the existing master socket isn’t unusual as two powered outlets are needed , for the ONT and router , if your preferred location doesn’t have power (or not enough power outlets) you can supply an power extension cable.
  • prowla
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    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
    Well, it might make sense for Virgin, but not for the CF customers!

  • flaneurs_lobster
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    prowla said:
    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
    Well, it might make sense for Virgin, but not for the CF customers!

    Indeed, but the first duty of CityFibre's and VirginMediaO2's directors is to maximise the returns to their shareholders.

    Anything else is a nice to have.
  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 14,292 Forumite
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    prowla said:
    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
    Well, it might make sense for Virgin, but not for the CF customers!

    Indeed, but the first duty of CityFibre's and VirginMediaO2's directors is to maximise the returns to their shareholders.

    Anything else is a nice to have.
    Aye, but this site isn't about maximising companies profits.

  • Eldi_Dos
    Eldi_Dos Posts: 2,605 Forumite
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    prowla said:
    prowla said:
    prowla said:
    dnpark38 said:
    @shiraz99
    Yes we have Virgin but it is co-ax, an ALT BRSK and OR.
    I read VM are thinking of about a take over of City Fiber and BRSK who recently merged with another Alt.
    So I guess a lot of changes on the way.
    We used to have at least 13 independent TV companies now we have just ITV.
    Again we used to have 13 or so Cable TV companies' and which became Virgin.

    Virgin takeover CityFibre - NooooOOOOOO!!!!!
    Would make sense, probably cheaper than replacing all that decades-old coax that's no longer up to snuff.
    Well, it might make sense for Virgin, but not for the CF customers!

    Indeed, but the first duty of CityFibre's and VirginMediaO2's directors is to maximise the returns to their shareholders.

    Anything else is a nice to have.
    Aye, but this site isn't about maximising companies profits.

    But a bigger company with a larger customer base,along with bit of rationalistion to cut cost's per subscriber might be in the customers interests in the long run.Who knows.
    Play with the expectation of winning not the fear of failure.    S.Clarke
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