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UKPA - Moorside legal - Money claim online

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 165,530 Forumite
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    edited 2 June at 2:14AM

    Yes but the point goes the other way round, as I said. It's not so much about who you understood to be offering the contract, it's that the offer on that sign can only be construed as coming from 9 Yards Ltd.

    A 'disclosed principal'. Important phrase.

    Read my thread about Fairlie v Fenton and Hancock v Promontoria. Low down on the sign UKPA is in tiny text and says they can't be held liable for anything happening to the vehicles on site. They are not taking any responsibility and clearly are just a 'PCN Processor' (i.e. an agent) as the full agreement says.

    But first get the WS sent, now. This minute! Lateness is a problem, so just do it.

    The above can be final reading for you ready for the hearing. One wonders why they would hide the two company numbers in that landowner 'statement'. Say that to the judge.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 2 June at 2:19AM

    AI says this:

    There are three primary entities associated with the name "Derby Retail" registered on the UK Companies House:

    • Derby Retail Ltd (Company No. OE012595): A registered Overseas Entity (incorporating from the Isle of Man) that became active in January 2023. 
    • Derby Retail II Ltd (Company No. OE005328): An additional Overseas Entity.
    • Southgate Derby Retail Limited (Company No. 07699115): A UK private limited company formerly involved in the Southgate Retail Park in Derby. This company was officially dissolved in September 2025.

    That landowner authority DOES NOT name thd right firm!

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  • krisboats
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    edited 2 June at 2:56AM

    well, on the plus side, its been sent. On the downside, it appears during a last minute spelling edit/conversion to pdf it is missing the beginning header on the first sheet.

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    Everything above the 2 lines is missing on the submitted pdf 😒

    Those details are on every submitted exhibit as follows, just the first page its missing on.

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  • krisboats
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    Its sent, its sent. Thank you for all your help through this. I honestly do appreciate it very, very much.

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 2 June at 11:06AM

    Take a couple of printed copied on the day (and one copy of theirs) or your laptop & charger so you can follow what the judge says and hand him/her a printed copy.

    Also take a crib sheet re Fairlie v Fenton and the Court of Appeal judgment in and Hancock v Promontoria, to point out the binding case law about redacted contracts.

    My thread on using those 2 cases talks you through how a hearing went, almost word for word.

    Get to court 40 mins early to get through security and sign in with the usher.

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  • krisboats
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    Well. 25 mins past the hearing time and ive yet to see the claimant representative in the waiting area.

  • 1505grandad
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    Well done - did you ask/get costs?

  • Coupon-mad
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    Yay, well done!

    Did you remember to ask for costs as post 2 of the NEWBIES thread instructs? If not it's too late now but you still won!

    ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

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  • krisboats
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    no, after they left me waiting for an hour hoping this other guy would show up i just wanted to head off and enjoy the sunshine tbh. The judge kept phoning through to the lady at reception to see if he had arrived, something i feel i wouldn't have been awarded the chance for if i was late tbh. She said if he has a good enough reason they could always file to continue it, but we most likely wont hear from them again and they've probably decided against attending due to the time/cost/chance of winning considerations.

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