Parking Code of Practice Consultation 2025 - now let's see what happens

Coupon-mad

And re question 33: other matters that the MHCLG should consider:

The fact that the BPA (and the Withdrawn Code) mistakenly dropped the BPA's mandatory reminder letters x 2 now means that we are seeing from ex-clampers CEL and others, a timeline of  'PCN to claim form' in seven weeks flat!

We have NEVER seen these speedy claims before this year and it's all because the BPA dropped clause 24.4 (the two mandatory reminder letters that were in their Code since 2012).

The 2022 Code made a mistake by missing clause 24.4 and those behind the joke 'Joint Code' copied the error, rubbing their hands with glee:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81621141/#Comment_81621141

Please add this to question 33.

Kaizen2024

So to be clear, in some threads the advice is to ignore everything except a LBC; yet you want operators to send multiple repetitive letters 🤦🏻‍♂️

Coupon-mad

Kaizen2024 said:

So to be clear, in some threads the advice is to ignore everything except a LBC; yet you want operators to send multiple repetitive letters 🤦🏻‍♂️

We (and no doubt MSE and Martin Lewis) will tell people to engage when:

- DRFs are banned, and

- PCNs are proportionate to the allegation, and

- the industry plays fair with issues raised by motorists: e.g. hears valid disputes and recognises ToLs before court, not lying about POFA, not spouting crap about Elliott v Loake, and

- rogue operators get the hell out of residential estates, and

- PPCs use working machines/apps, and

- the scammers cease inventing new ways to scam vulnerable people such as 'bay monitoring' where disabled people are expected to exempt their vehicle as well as display a blue badge (imposing extra burdens just because you want to use AI surveillance) and 

- the scammers stop throwing JRs at the government, and

- there is a Single Appeals Service and

-  the IAS (standard and non-standard) is finally killed off: dead as a dodo.

I don't think your industry realises how useful and powerful MSE (the site and this community) could potentially be to tell people to pay PCNs if they are proportionate and fairly issued. We would, as well. We do with council PCNs, in the main.

Nellymoser

Kaizen2024 said:

So to be clear, in some threads the advice is to ignore everything except a LBC; yet you want operators to send multiple repetitive letters 🤦🏻‍♂️

No, God spare us. Multiple repetitive letters will not be required. A couple will suffice.

I don't know why Kaizen appears bemused by this. Seems to me it’s not dissimilar to parking operators filing huge numbers of court claims they know they'll be discontinuing before the hearing fees are due to be paid.

Car1980

For Question 1

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2vmm21jy3o.amp

Why is the penalty £70 for endangering children's lives on the public highway, but £100 on private land for taking too long to eat your McDonalds?

LoneStarState

given there is only a couple of days left......I just wanted to check I'm not being dim and missing something.  How do we actually attach evidence we may have to support our answers or is it the case that we are just taken at our word or can only provide links?

Coupon-mad

You should be able to attach evidence. If not, send them a separate email with it attached.

NCC1701-A

Well that was painful but felt good pressing send! And sending separate email with photo evidence.  

Fingers crossed this moves things forward.

Umkomaas

NCC1701-A said:

Well that was painful but felt good pressing send! And sending separate email with photo evidence.  

Fingers crossed this moves things forward.

Great stuff, well done. I'm planning to press that same button tomorrow. Out for early morning breakfast, then final touches ..... and whoosh!

MHCLG, after all this work we've undertaken on yet another consultation ....... don't let us, or 14 million motorists (and voters) down!

Umkomaas

Umkomaas said:

NCC1701-A said:

Well that was painful but felt good pressing send! And sending separate email with photo evidence.  

Fingers crossed this moves things forward.

Great stuff, well done. I'm planning to press that same button tomorrow. Out for early morning breakfast, then final touches ..... and whoosh!

MHCLG, after all this work we've undertaken on yet another consultation ....... don't let us, or 14 million motorists (and voters) down!

Yep, my whoosh was whooshed, job done!  

Now let's see if the will of Parliament is upheld, or if the sharp-suit snake oil salesmen of the BPA and IPC have pulled the wool over the Govt's eyes yet again. 14 million motorists (and their money and mental health) in PPC crosshairs every year. 

Message to the MHCLG - the Knight Act was about bringing the out-of-control private parking industry to heel. It was never about the motorist!