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Parking Code of Practice Consultation 2025 - now let's see what happens

Coupon-mad
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edited 29 September at 11:33PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
This was a thread to discuss these questions:
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/private-parking-code-of-practice

Let's see what the MHCLG do next.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 25 August at 9:34AM

    Where parking tariff exceeds the parking charge

    Question 25 (a): Do you agree with the proposal to clarify that where the parking tariff exceeds the parking charge, the full payment of the tariff may be pursued alongside payment of the parking charge?

    AGREE

    Question 25(b): Agree; it made no sense in that PPCs could only pursue the tariff (no deterrent value, and tariffs sometime go to the client which would make the Withdrawn Code version unworkable) but:

    (a) the PCN issued must offer the usual discount and appeal. The case is no different in that respect.

    (b) the MHCLG must keep this clause under review in case of abuse, e.g. PPCs leasing small pockets of land with small signs with a deliberately high tariff or unexpectedly high escalation of tariffs, alongside faulty machines or flaky apps. This is why the data collected by government MUST include the postcode of each site (or anonymised site identifier) to expose 'cash cow' locations quickly.

    Question 26: leave blank - PPCs only


    Data

    Question 27(a): Do you agree with the proposal that a Government Code of Practice will mandate that the trade associations should collect data from their private parking operators members and share it with Government and the Scrutiny and Oversight Board?

    I will say: STRONGLY AGREE

    Question 27(b): Please explain your answer 

    I will put something like this:

    Whilst this is a very important addition, the MHCLG has missed out two of the most important questions:

    (a) to identify the postcode of each site (or an anonymised site identifier) to expose 'cash cow' locations quickly.

    and

    (b) to identify the reason for issue of PCNs at the operator's sites. If they are almost all overstays, or almost all 'non-payment of a tariff', or lots of 'PCN plus the tariff' high value ones, the MHCLG and Standards Board will never know.


    The Scrutiny and Oversight Board

    Question 28(a): Do you agree that the Scrutiny and Oversight Board should be made up of people not associated with the private parking industry, motorist groups or government officials, so that they can independently review data on the Code’s efficacy?

    I will say: STRONGLY AGREE

    Question 28(b): Please explain your answer 

    I will put something like this:

    Whilst the SOB being fully independent is a welcome safeguard, the same cannot be said of the Conformity and Assessment Bodies. It is well publicised in Parking News, and at Parkex, that the CABs will be made up of people from the parking industry and from the BPA and IPC.

    Those persons will still have allegiances or their erstwhile employers and trade bodies (it seems that most of them worked for PPCs in the past).Not only will the CAB auditors be marking their mates' homework, but there has been no assurance that 'auditors' must not audit firms where they used to work or have a conflict of interest. CAB auditors must be required to declare all previous PPC or DRA employers before they start work for the CAB. They MUST NOT audit or sign off any firms where there is a personal conflict of interest.

    There is also no reassurance coming from the MHCLG to suggest that the IPC and POPLA will be removed, banned and replaced by a Single Appeals Service, as the Parking (Code of Practice Act) 2019 specifically added by an amendment during its journey through Parliament. When questioned by other MPs, to everyone's alarm, the Minister responsible talked about 'improving' second stage appeals.

    The IPC in particular, is considered unfit for purpose and cannot continue in my opinion.

    It is particularly imperative that the MHCLG immediately removes the non-standard IAS version that charges appellants £15 to lose and also (so the Lead Adjudicator says in his flimsy 'Annual Reports') sign away their right to be heard in court. It is astonishing that this 'service' that allows as low as just 4% of appeals decided in favour of consumers is still a CTSI ADR entity.

    IMHO it must be removed from the sector before this iteration of the statutory Code and not given any pedestal or status whatsoever. It is not enough to appoint a SOB that will only find all this out two years down the line.

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  • Kaizen2024
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    edited 12 July at 2:52PM
    Someone has messed up on an excel sheet formula there, DRA’s do not have a 63% profit margin 
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