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Parking Code of Practice Consultation 2025 - now let's see what happens
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Operators also restrict times you can use the recycling facilities in private car parks.Coupon-mad said:
Good points!Nellymoser said:Environmental Question 36
In my answer I also mentioned how Operators are restricting/stopping EV drivers recharging with their car park time restrictions and when on site businesses are closed.
Two in three EV drivers have waited more than 10 minutes to use charger – survey
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-three-ev-drivers-waited-230100329.html
And banning Debt fees would dramatically reduce DRA paper use!
Expecting people to pay the overnight parking tariff or receive a hefty pcn when dropping off recycling materials is more likely to put people off than encourage them to recycle using the facilities in private car parks.
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Good point for the environmental question.Nellymoser said:
Operators also restrict times you can use the recycling facilities in private car parks.Coupon-mad said:
Good points!Nellymoser said:Environmental Question 36
In my answer I also mentioned how Operators are restricting/stopping EV drivers recharging with their car park time restrictions and when on site businesses are closed.
Two in three EV drivers have waited more than 10 minutes to use charger – survey
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/two-three-ev-drivers-waited-230100329.html
And banning Debt fees would dramatically reduce DRA paper use!
Expecting people to pay the overnight parking tariff or receive a hefty pcn when dropping off recycling materials is more likely to put people off than encourage them to recycle using the facilities in private car parks.
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Don't think so...?Umkomaas said:Just a quickie from me. Is there any shortcut to get to your last comments in the response in order to continue a partially completed and saved document, without having to scroll down each page from the start, click 'Continue', then same again next page. As I'm approaching Q33, it's taking an age to get there, every time!
Here is an additional concern to add to question 33 about when operators jump ship from one APA to another:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81613849/#Comment_81613849
As well as the concern about whether sanction points follow the operator if they switch horses, there are more issues about transparency:.
- There has ALWAYS been an issue that the APAs fail to state the date that an AOS member joined and/or left the AOS. This must be stated to the day.
- There has always been an issue (a civil offence 'misleading omission' by the BPA and IPC) that they FAIL TO MARK THE AOS LIST if an operator has left or has been suspended by them or the DVLA.
Consumers are entitled to (NEED to know) the dates of suspension by an APA or the DVLA because that means an operator cannot get their DVLA data during that period.
It cannot be down to someone having to guess or send an FOI to the DVLA every month to ask which PPCs are banned or suspended!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Another point for question 33:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81614452/#Comment_81614452
There must be a mandated route to make it easy for lease firms to transfer liability, to encourage them to do that instead of paying & denying hirer/lessees their right to appeal.
Other points for Q33:
- the '21 days from service' discount is required instead of the unfair 14 days.
- Requiring a debtor to pay the VAT element of a DRA fee or commission is unlawful under HMRC rules. Adding £70 enriches both the DRA and the PPC because they share that, and the duped victim pays over the odds (including the trader's VAT which they can reclaim). HMRC clarified that this is not allowed for enforcement fees (bailiffs) and the same rule applies to DRA fees in every sector.
- Adding costs is banned in the Scottish Simple Procedure for claims under £300
As I believe are 'contingency fee arrangements' where solicitors 'front' claim fees because this is possibly champertous conduct which is still illegal in Scotland I think.
@Old_Slobberchops am I right? We know that some/all of the bulk legals in E&W front the claim filing fees which creates a conflict of interests. Offends against public policy and maybe cannot pass in Scotland. Another reason to ban consumers having to fund this modelPRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Re major keying errors caused by faulty machines:
there is FOI evidence that these are likely to be occurring in as much as a THIRD of all tariffs paid at Kent Country Parks:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81614474/#Comment_81614474
Could someone please email Ellie for a proper copy of her FOI replies from the Parks please, and encourage her to email her findings to the MHCLG before the Public Consultation closes?Secondly, re the question about the Appeals Charter:
It's all well and good but how are victims of faulty machines meant to know that a keying error (machine fault) even occurred? Let alone raise it at appeal and assume the evidential burden of 'showing' (proving?) what went wrong!
How would they know, when the PCN is accusing them of not paying?
The onus should be on operators to prove that they have carries out a 'fuzzy payments list' check for similar or partial VRMs that could match the payment, AND to show that evidence - a partially redacted list of payments made - with rejection letters, so people know what checks the operator has or hasn't made.
And it should be a sanctionable breach for an operator NOT to substantiate their reasons for rejection of appeals, with evidence and checks made for things like this and double dips, etc.
After all, only 1%-2% of people try second stage appeal so in the interests of transparency, a rejection letter MUST explain the allegation fully and attach evidence of thorough checks.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Misleading omissions/actions (breach of DMCC Act) alleged at early stages.
'Yes or No' in brackets shows if the victim 'engaged' by appeal/complaint.
UKPA: (yes)
ANPR flaw: double dip. Why do any human checks? The useless Joint Code doesn't require it, so churn out PCNs, most people pay, cancel any appealed:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6621904/parking-fine-some-direction-is-required
The Parking Group (yes at LBC stage)
Fake drop off / food pick up bay area with different tarmac: a trap outside Subway & Greggs. No signs or surface markings and the exact same 'decoy' white car in exactly the same spot, a year apart:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81655703/#Comment_81655703
NForce: (yes)
Covert camera surveillance (illegal) 3 mins to pick up a passenger isn't parking & ruins shop trade: "The girl I spoke to at the shop said the camera had brought loads of aggro with people throwing the NTK/debt letters at her. People taking their spaces had been a problem but she'd rather go back to that."
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6561358/nforce-parking-management-170-for-a-3-min-infringment/p1
UKPS (yes)
Covert camera surveillance = illegal. CCTV on another building, no warning signs, only double yellows which allow passenger pick up/set down! Also breach of Equality Act as passenger is disabled:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81660260/#Comment_81660260
ParkingEye (yes)
Paid 5 hours and left within 10 min grace. PEye pursuing due to 4 minutes on arrival to park & download the app!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6619805/parkingeye-pcn-paid-for-5h-parking-overstayed-14-minutes-popla-rejected-what-next#latest
RCP (yes)
Paid by app but (twice) it auto-filled his old car. Now receiving lying threatograms (misleading re CCJ) and will be sued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81652832/#Comment_81652832
ParkingEye (yes)
No t&cs signs at EV bays in car park:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81624097/#Comment_81624097
Parkmaven
Conflicting & lack of t&c signs at EV bay:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6630202/help-with-defence-following-ev-charging-pcn-poor-signage-dcb#latest
VARS tech (yes)
No t&cs signage in EV bays is really common, almost like it's deliberate...!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629171/charged-for-parking-whilst-charging-an-ev-signage-implies-charging-is-not-considered-parking/p1
ParkingEye rogue ticketing: (yes)
PCN time ONE SECOND over 10 min grace period (impossible for ANPR):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624410/newbie-parking-eye-newquay-charge-over-apparent-grace-period-by-1-second-refused-appeal-so-popla
APCOA
PPCs 'want' to run everything remotely so a new scam is happening: "any user needing disabled parking must register on a web portal. No signage at the station re this change". Even with signs it breaches the Equality Act by making disabled people take extra steps than just displaying their Badge:
#1 (yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6610282/apcoa-southeastern-penalty-notices-and-blue-badges/p1
#2 (yes)
Same Equality Act breach & DPA breach also: there's no 'special category' robust data justification to run disabled bays by ANPR, instead of on foot:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6612576/apcoa-pn-issued-at-southeastern-rail-car-park-blue-badge-not-registered-at-blue-badge-portal/p1
Group Nexus (yes)
same issue: driver displayed BB, did nothing wrong! PCN by post: unexpected term: disabled people to have to 'register in the shop for a code for free accessible parking.' How would a driver know this? Why 'must' they take extra steps just because ANPR firms want to run all bays remotely? Illegal under Equality Act:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6610069/groupnexus-parking-charge#latest
Group Nexus (yes)
Untrue 'date of sending' due to Mail Consolidator: Arrived on day twelve (non-POFA worded anyway):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81660387/#Comment_81660387
Bay Sentry (yes)
No repeater signs, no red lines & no sensitive security issues but the IPC has approved a trap 'no-stopping zone'. Victim is being sued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81642634/#Comment_81642634
ECP (yes)
The faulty machine scam: at Kent Country Parks alone, ECP made an extra £20,000. FOI suggests a THIRD of drivers who paid a tariff had a PCN due to system failure!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81614474/#Comment_81614474
ECP (yes)
Issued PCN despite P&D machine out of action: engineer working on it. ECP said 'no engineer was there!' Then sat
on their hands for 6 years. 'Statute barred' but DCB Legal still chased it:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6572233/dcb-legal-court-claim/p1
ECP (yes)
Lack of any consideration period caused this PCN. Faulty machine, faulty app. Took c10 mins to pay to park. Appeal was apparently ignored. Now being sued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81654293/#Comment_81654293
ECP (yes)
Reportedly breaching 5 min rule ban. Apps can take 15 mins to get to work:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6630817/euro-car-parks-parking-charge-notice-13-minute-delay-between-arriving-and-paying#latest
Premier Park (yes)
Issued a PCN in a derelict car park with no readable signs (see pics) and Gladstones are still running with it:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81604104/#Comment_81604104
Premier Park (yes)
PCN on public highway:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625828/private-pcn-when-parked-on-adopted-road/p1
SIP (yes)
PCN on public highway. Now suing:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6526824/sip-parking-piccadilly-trading-estate-lbc/p4
I-Park (yes)
PCN on public highway, covert CCTV films every person & vehicle on the road (even the pavement isn't private land):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625490/i-park-services-court-claim-via-dcb-legal-advice-needed/p1CUP Enforcement (yes)
PCN on public highway, covert CCTV films every person & vehicle (pavement is not private land):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624984/cup-enforcement-watford
Parkmaven (yes)
'double dip' cases galore, here are two:
#1: escalated to DCB who duped victims into a payment plan (we got them to cancel it):https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6615032/dcbl-parking-fine-no-appeal-but-wrong/p1
#2:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6631520/parkmaven-ntk
One Parking Solution: (yes)
Windscreen PCN to community nurse in NHS Trust car with logo & NHS badge. Despite BHCC contract banning this:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626645/ops-pcn
Park Direct (yes)
Refused transfer of liability, demanded excessive data not required under POFA:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6608512/park-direct-uk-ltd-refused-transfer-of-liability/p1
UKCPM (yes)
new unmarked, unlit & covert 24/7 CCTV filming across public road. NTK doesn't state the parking period. 30 seconds?
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6622689/parking-charge-whilst-delivering/p1
UKCPM (yes)
ANPR at GP surgery: CoP breach: no extra signs to warn of new enforcement. Now being sued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625653/uk-cpm-bw-legal-gp-surgery-parking-fine-help#latest
UKCPM (yes)
Not accepting proof of unloading. In law, unloading is NOT a 'period of parking' but in the IPC's cloud cuckoo land, it is:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624508/uk-cpm-parking-ticket-dispute-10-min-of-van-loading
NPC (yes)
Changed t&cs by putting a white sticker over the 9am - 6pm hours of operation to change it to 24/7 without extra signs:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6622115/parking-charge-advice-independent-adjudicator-gave-different-outcomes/p1
Capital Car Park Control (yes)
PCNs to residents at home car park in breach of the tenants' or leaseholders' lease/grant/rights:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6507962/ccpc-dcb-legal-claim-residential-ws-stage-2025/p1
...again CCPC (yes)
withdrew permit application without warning then issued 7 PCNs (= £1190!) to a known resident:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629777/is-this-unfair-enforcement#latest
NPC (yes)
PCNs to residents at home car park in breach of rights (landowner admits bay is demised to leaseholder):https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624533/advice-needed-claim-form-received-on-charge-given-for-parking-in-own-resident-space/p2
Elite (yes)
PCNs to resident at new home. Moved in 13/11/23, 6 PCNs issued to old address in first week; Elite blamed the tenant for not updating DVLA(!) refused to reissue PCNs. After TWO YEARS of harassment this tenant has just won in court:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6488174/6-tickets-issued-in-8-days-is-there-a-data-protection-issue/p1
Countrywide Parking (yes)
PCNs to residents at own home car park in breach of the tenants' rights, refused to cancel PCNs when asked by managing agents, now about to sue residents:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626568/please-help-i-have-a-pcn-private-not-council-situation/p1
Anchor Security Services (yes)
PCNs to residents at their own home car park in breach of the tenants' rights and easements, enabled by DCB Legal maintaining a claim re cancelled PCNs:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626472/anchor-dcb-legal-court-claim-2025/p1
Total Parking Solutions (yes)
repeated 'double dip' PCNs hugely disrupting/affecting a business & their employees. TPS know about it but no sign of them doing 'human checks' or using a less data-intrusive solution:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629832/how-to-stop-repeated-pcns-issued-because-of-anpr-fault#latest
UKCPM (yes)
double dip PCN now at court:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6593447/help-defending-a-very-silly-pcn-from-uk-car-park-managment-limited/p1UKCPM (yes)
faded t&cs, weather worn sticker; no lighting. Signs refer only to a 'car park' but covert 24/7 CCTV films the road: drivers have no clue. No contract:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81648575/#Comment_81648575
NCP (yes)
NTKs citing POFA when the dates make keeper liability impossible:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81643887/#Comment_81643887
Gemini (yes)
non-POFA but misleads the recipient:
'we will assume you were the driver' (rogue practice enabled by Joint Code, IMHO a misleading action by both APAs):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80549315/#Comment_80549315
Norwich Traffic Control (yes)
POFA (misleading threat re 'prosecution'):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80754224/#Comment_80754224
Bank Park: no Planning Permission:
https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/consumer/sheffield-parking-bank-park-ordered-to-close-second-site-or-risk-unlimited-fine-5292637
MET Parking (yes)
NTK misleading the keeper that the POFA 2012 applies at an Airport:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81625128/#Comment_81625128
MET (yes)
NTK based on an alleged outright lie from the ticketer on foot:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81649870/#Comment_81649870
PCM (yes)
usual trick: hidden signs no consideration period. Covert surveillance (= illegal):https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6335891/pcm-high-point-village-hayes-and-harlington-train-station-pcn/p3
VCS (yes)
PCN for TWELVE SECONDS as the driver pulled over in a petrol station; clearly not a no stopping zone & the first letter was a 'reminder' so no discount or appeal:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624540/parking-charge-notice-ema-bp-petrol-station-vcs
VCS at Bristol Airport (yes)
Driver doing U-turn, VCS van pulled up, feigned to 'help'. So VCS got CCTV images & say car was 'stationary' (allegedly staged by VCS van driver):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624573/bristol-airport-fine-vcs
UKCPS
Supposed IPC agreed 'no-stopping zone' but no red lines or repeater signs. Non-POFA NTK but mimics POFA wording to twist the true position: pretend keepers can be pursued 'on assumption':
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6630835/ukcps-no-stopping-charge-leeds-train-stationCarParkers & East Anglia Parking (yes)
Looks like a single car park split in two: unclear it's 2 different PPCs, poor signs, no barrier/delineation. Minuscule t&cs, no BPA roundel. A trap:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6621963/over-looked-signage#latest-----------
DRA rogue conduct issuing NTKs (not escalation stage):
PCS (Debt Recovery Plus) for AM Parking
NTK after windscreen PCN - demands £120 - CoP breach. 2 examples:
#1 (yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81498278/#Comment_81498278
#2 (yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81598432/#Comment_81598432
TNC, for CPS (Midlands) (yes)
NTK - first letter after windscreen PCN - "you can't appeal":
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80470003/#Comment_80470003
ZZPS for GBP (yes)
ZZPS admitted they didn't bother to issue a NTK yet lied 'the keeper remains liable':
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6524412/gbp-management-dcb-legal-court-claim-2025/p7
ZZPS for Globe Protection (yes)
NTK misleads that they have a 'right to recover DRA costs' from a keeper (Sch 4 bans this - 'maximum' is PCN sum):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81092626/#Comment_81092626
ZZPS for LDK Security (yes)
threatogram ONE day after POPLA code:ZZPS: illegally demand £127 on NTK & £1.95 on the back = c£29 more than POFA or CoP allows. 4 examples:#1 (yes) GBP
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81634369/#Comment_81634369
#2 (yes) SABA
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81374319/#Comment_81374319
#3 (no) GBPhttps://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81655178/#Comment_81655178
#4 (yes) SABA
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81674130/#Comment_81674130
ZZPS for LDK Security (yes)
NTK adds £1.95, and the website makes appeal conditional on saying who was driving (banned by DVLA years ago):https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81637798/#Comment_81637798
ZZPS for All Parking (yes)
Sent NTK so late that it arrived when the 14 day discount had already expiredPRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Misleading actions at appeal/dispute.
('Yes or No') = was it disputed?
First...MHCLG look at this link and please show it to the CMA:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81665052/#Comment_81665052
The Government cannot let PPCs set up 'DRA' websites with their own staff providing a NOW ILLEGAL fake review! This conduct is Wonga-esque and a civil offence (DMCC Act). This sector needs more DRA competition (fresh DRAs from outside) not a closed shop of AOS member mates.
ZZPS (for SABA): (yes) hybrid railway 'Appeals Service'; no knowledge of CoP, Beavis or POFA!
Inadequate short template 'decisions' x 2:
#1
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81648913/#Comment_81648913
#2
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81647277/#Comment_81647277CUP, enabled by Unity5 (yes)
'Certificate of Posting' (Unity 5) lied that NTK went by 'one day delivery'. Unity 5 use a mail consolidator; letters go into Royal Mail = deemed delivered 2 working days later. Misled POPLA:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81645472/#Comment_81645472
SolutionLabs for Viking: (yes)
11 sec stop covertly captured by lurker on foot. SolutionLabs lied 'only a driver can appeal': "your communication has been removed and deleted"
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6623611/what-next/p1
MET Parking (yes)
Misleading consumers re liability: 'Airport Byelaws don't apply'
#1 (yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629082/met-pcn-appeal-rejected-southgate-park-stansted
#2(yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81625128/#Comment_81625128
MET, enabled by POPLA (yes)
Told POPLA 'only' 27 drivers got PCNs that day for 'failing to validate'. 27 a day is a problem! Now sued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81621170/#Comment_81621170
Parkmaven (yes)
Ignore Transfers of Liability, send more demands knowing Lease Firms will pay. POFA breach: no right to appeal:
#1
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81614400/#Comment_81614400
#2
ignored ToL, sent lease firm demands & they paid £170. The motorist never had a NTH to appeal:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6608237/parking-fine-parkmaven-in-company-car/p1
Premier Park (yes)
Lied to POPLA re NTK 'POFA-worded' (no, it was driver liability only):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6618628/premier-park-appeal
NSL (yes)
Still misleading keepers & POPLA by pretending POFA applies at Airports:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81665097/#Comment_81665097
Group Nexus (yes)
Told hirer appellant they must say who was driving or prove they WEREN'T the hirer?!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81667969/#Comment_81667969
Alliance Parking (yes)
Appellant proved they paid: wrong VRM. Keying error but didn't offer the £20 'admin fee' farce:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81650394/#Comment_81650394
ANPR 365 (yes)
keying error: Admitted they'd found a payment for 'a similar VRM' but rejected appeal instead of cancelling:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81613849/#Comment_81613849
Minster Baywatch: (yes)
No rejection or POPLA Code; NTK had arrived 3 weeks after 'dated', discount gone:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81625152/#Comment_81625152
IAS: accepted appeals x 2 then removed those findings & reversed the decisions. Landowner had to step in:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6627962/ias-reversed-decisions
Smart Parking: (yes)
Ignored evidence of 'double dip'. Just refused appeal!https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629177/smart-parking-ltd-appeal-denied-with-evidence
BaySentry (yes)
Keying error paid for wrong day: payment now matched. Appeal refused:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81613895/#Comment_81613895
ZZPS acting for LDK Security (yes)
added £1.95 breaches the cap & 'appeals' page unlawfully requires driver as a condition of appeal:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81636566/#Comment_81636566
ZZPS for liquidated PPC: (yes)
Reply to appeal "Should you wish to appeal...please do so in response to this email within 7 days"! DVLA fobbed it off:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81650437/#Comment_81650437
PCM enabled by IAS: (yes)
PCN to resident & disabled passenger. IAS happy with WRONG sign! "whilst the photo evidence captures 2 different signs, they are essentially both alluding to the same thing"!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81612666/#Comment_81612666
Group Nexus, enabled by POPLA (yes)postal PCN to vehicle they KNEW on the day was broken down:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81638864/#Comment_81638864
Euro Parking Services (yes)
Refused retailer cancellation: counted ten seconds reversing out as an overstay!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81671912/#Comment_81671912
ECP enabled by POPLA (yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81612075/#Comment_81612075
Green Parking, enabled by POPLA (yes)
tampering to look like bay was restricted:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626823/popla-decision/p1
TCP enabled by POPLA: (yes) ignored Equality Act duty to allow more time:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628448/total-car-parks-market-square-morley-30-mins-overstay-at-popla
ParkingEye, enabled by POPLA (yes)
5 min rule: Full 16hrs paid for. PEye ignored that & confused POPLA:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625869/sanity-check-of-pcn-popla-decision
Smart Parking, enabled by IAS (yes)
NTK too late for keeper liability (wins at POPLA but loses at IAS):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81622400/#Comment_81622400
Civil Enforcement (yes)
Let agent refuse transfer of liability. CEL's complaints policy says they only accept complaints within 56 days of the alleged breach!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81622668/#Comment_81622668
UKPS (yes)
PCN by post to disabled patient, NHS site. Landowner admitted: 'signage informing patients to register their vehicle details with reception when using a disabled parking bay was temporarily removed due to redecoration works' but UKPS took the victim's money & refused to listen to a valid complaint re this wrongdoing:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81612662/#Comment_81612662
Smart Parking (yes ALL APPEALED).
No reply to appeals: straight to DRA. Ongoing pattern BPA investigated; Smart just forum-shopped to the IPC:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624960/smart-parking-unfairly-taking-me-to-court-via-dcbl-please-help/p1
andandandandandhttps://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6514685/smart-parking-pcn-not-received-escalated-to-debt-recovery-within-a-month
and
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6506021/smart-parking-and-debt-recovery-plusandand---------------DRA & PPC rogue conduct at 'escalation' stage: evidence that motorists ARE 'engaging' but bang their heads against a brick wall:
UKCPS (yes)
PPCs share data with lots of different DRAs to wear people down: "We received multiple debt collection letters from different agents over the course of the last 3 years (debt recovery plus, trace etc)...caused a level of stress and anxiety into our lives as we were preparing to welcome our first baby." Complained to the DVLA & appealed, lost at IAS despite 'false' signage map & now to be sued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81578552#Comment_81578552
ZZPS on QDR headed notepaper (yes)
Chasing statute-barred railway PNs past 6 month time limit. Bare demand, no resolution: "once the matter has been passed to ourselves, the opportunity to appeal has passed and we are unable to review any such requests" (it hasn't been 'passed' to anyone; ZZPS allegedly send 'QDR' letters themselves):https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81630148/#Comment_81630148
Civil Enforcement (yes)
Since the BPA binned their ever-present 2 reminders clause, CEL are racing from NTK to LBC in six weeks flat. No recovery work; PCN £170 for no reason:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81573256/#Comment_81573256
DCB Ltd (yes)
Breach vulnerable debtors rules (debt resolution?!): 9 PCNs: DCB added £630. Motorist with brain injury & blue badge. Helper says: "DCB say they 'understand circumstances' but 'can’t get in touch with ParkingEye'! Chasing £1,530."
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81654942/#Comment_81654942
DCB Ltd refuse to hear disputes (yes)
"DCBL are not part of the appeals process and we are solely instructed for the purpose of debt resolution" & "DCBL are unable to enter any correspondence regarding your appeal or dispute"!https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81492313/#Comment_81492313
DCB Ltd: refused transfer of liability - there is no deadline but they lie (yes)
DCB: "the timeframe in which to transfer liability expired prior to our instruction. DCBL are not part of the transfer of liability process... DCBL are unable to enter any further correspondence regarding your appeal or dispute"!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81501726/#Comment_81501726
DCB Ltd:
Ignored Equality Act. Outrageously rude to disabled caller & lied about CCJ:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6630848/170-fine-for-6-minute-overstay-at-euro-car-park-worcester-blue-badge-holder-advice-please
DCB Legal (yes)
PCN confirmed by UKPC cancelled months ago. DCB refuse to look at it:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81633672/#Comment_81633672
UKCPM ignoring disputes: (yes)
2 separate claims (one via Gladstones, one via BW Legal = an abuse of court). Housing Assoc had cancelled the 2 Gladstones PCNs months before!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6592865/court-claim/p1
TNC (yes) chase resident for £1190. Refused new address, won't reissue PCNs, intimidating comms:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81599171/#Comment_81599171
Debt Recovery Plus (yes)
Misleading trash: not debt resolution:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81590637/#Comment_81590637
Debt Recovery Plus
traced wrong person. Texted misleading codswallop. KADOE breach: ECP don't retain data control but they should:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81660159/#Comment_81660159
ZZPS refused transfer of liability. No deadline but they lie (yes)
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6612346/what-do-i-do-email-following-passing-over-of-driver-details/p1GCTT (aka ZZPS) (No)
Payment plans aren't resolution:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81610605/#Comment_81610605
ZZPS (No)
Bare demands aren't 'resolution': can't even spell Beavis let alone in context!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81558623/#Comment_81558623
ZZPS (No)
ZZPS threaten bailiffs, twice. Nothing about this letter-chain is debt resolution!
UKPC reject transfer of liability (yes)
Driver lives abroad: ToL done but UKPC unlawfully reverted to keeper:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6627171/liability-reverted-back-to-me-after-i-named-driver/p1
UKPC: (yes)
No POPLA Code after appeal re broken down car. DRA: 'now too late' to provide evidence! Being sued:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626045/ukpc-parking-charge
ZZPS (yes)
Chased statute-barred debt deemed 'dead' in Scottish law:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624349/zzps
GCTT (aka ZZPS) (yes)
"told me they were unable to supply any evidence as the firm operating the car park is no longer trading"!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628295/parking-charge-notice-firm-no-longer-operating#latest
Group Nexus & DCB (yes)
PCN now £170: it was paid in March!https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625901/groupnexus-cp-plus-ltd-already-paid-pcn
UKPC (yes)
Charging a disabled person £20 for a reasonable adjustment breaches the Equality Act 2010 and DMCC Act:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81603409/#Comment_81603409
Debt Recovery Plus: (No)
"Paying is your legal responsibility/If you fail to make payment a CCJ can be issued against you". Lying codswallop even if sent to a keeper in E&W, but this is Glasgow: no keeper liability & no CCJs!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81605750/#Comment_81605750
TRACE Debt: (no)
BPA President is group CEO.
Misleads: 'may decide to get a CCJ':
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81602023/#Comment_81602023
...worse Trace wording (September)(yes). Lies: 'apply for' a CCJ, nor 'start legal proceedings at any time'.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81652832/#Comment_81652832
Moorside Legal: (no)
BPA President's firm send template '14 day' non-protocol LBC: no details, misleads re costs:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6622116/moorside-letter-before-claim-without-details-or-response-time#latest
Moorside Legal: (yes)
- Question: when is a DR fee not a DRF?
- Answer: when the President of the BPA is CEO of APN Group (Moorside and Trace) invent a laughable explanation for adding £70:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81451850/#Comment_81451850
BW Legal (yes)
...according to BW Legal it is 'our costs'! Each DRA has a different explanation:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81603562/#Comment_81603562
Gladstones (no) multiple DRFs so one LBC = £180 added. Extortion?!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81636818/#Comment_81636818
Gladstones (yes)
Refuse to narrow issues; patronising:
"As this appears to be a template response commonly available online, we do not intend to engage substantively with its contents, particularly as it is unlikely you fully understand the implications of the statements made"!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81602352/#Comment_81602352
ParkingEye added £25 (yes)
Defended case won: faulty machines. "District Judge Jackson at County Court, Newport mentioned if he had found in their favour he would have rejected the additional amount as the wording was at best "vague" & no justification how they arrived at the £25"https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81611378/#Comment_81611378
ParkingEye (yes: cancelled by retailer)
PEye now add £30 (was zero until 2023, then £25). Not on the signs: too late, they ambush with +£30 on LBCs. PEye adding a DRF is new; goes against case law (ParkingEye v Somerfield). Looks like a ploy to fool the MHCLG into thinking DRFs are the norm:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81442107/#Comment_81442107PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD-1 -
Court claim conduct : some bulk legals 'front' claim fees. No semblance of liaising with Claimants. Discontinuances, lies:
First, images of very rogue court claims, collated in one thread:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6493434/courtserve-and-claim-form-evidence-of-the-parking-firm-claim-tsunami/p1
Second, explained in this BW Legal case:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81660290/#Comment_81660290
and here, DCB Legal case:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81660424/#Comment_81660424
...our 'judgments against PPCs for failing to plead claims properly' now runs to c70 pages incl 2 Circuit Judge Appeal judgments against PPCs but they KEEP wasting court time:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2jef4c7bljyp6dse24p70/Judgments.pdf?rlkey=jsgusx180wzjz2f6er0436xw2&e=1&st=03x4tsbq&dl=0
Gladstones: claim with the wrong PCN sum, stated at £110 which is impossible:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81646007/#Comment_81646007
Gladstones: lots of Horizon Parking claims with the wrong PCN £sum (higher than was on the sign/NTK) and this first court claim also states the wrong Tesco:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81642570/#Comment_81642570
Yet more Gladstones claims - court fees 'fronted' and witness statements written by Gladstones staff: champerty and maintenance? - all claiming impossible 'keeper liability' (Horizon didn't use the POFA until 2025) and all exaggerating the PCN sum by £10:
Tesco: Gladstones issued a claim with no details. Defendant got a law firm to apply to strike it out but Gladstones reissued the same claim and caused a CCJ:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6602415/pcn-from-2023-gladstones-now-at-money-claim-stage/p4Tesco: pleaded £80, should be £70:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81642574/#Comment_81642574
Tesco: pleaded £80, should be £70:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6622009/notice-of-proposed-allocation-to-the-small-claims-track/p2
Tesco: pleaded £80, should be £70:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81533390/#Comment_81533390
Iceland: pleaded £90, should be £80:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6618133/horizon-gladstones-court-claim-2025/p1
Moorside Legal always fail to plead the breach in claim particulars. Bulk litigation for UKCPS always says 'the Defendant is liable a keeper' even if not true. This case wasted court time - all the way to a hearing. Judge struck it out:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6601164/ukcps-moorside-legal-court-claim-defence#latest
Moorside Legal
Allegedly lied to Court Mediator:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81572345/#Comment_81572345Moorside Legal: look at the particulars! Were they drunk? They caused a default CCJ by using an old address with a completely unspecified claim talking about 'parking fines'. Clobbered by Defendant's solicitor (£3500 in costs which Moorside will charge the PPC):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625934/court-report-reading-countrywide-parking-hit-for-3-500-costs
Moorside Legal: 'own space' claim v resident: no location, no alleged breach(es) no explanation of sum claimed (victim thought it was 4 PCNs. It's seven - across a 5 day period?!) at £170 a pop + 8%interest from a date before the car was parked...and all are cancelled PCNs!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626472/anchor-dcb-legal-court-claim-2025/p2
Askews:
Pursued Moneyclaims for (magistrates court only) railway car park Penalty Notices. We had a few of these in 2024: some went to hearings. All statute-barred penalties: these aren't contractual debt - but some caused 4 figure CCJs.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80478803/#Comment_80478803
BW Legal: claim for UKCPM to leaseholder (owns the bay on their lease) then sent a 'reply to defence' misleading the recipient about CCJ risk:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81639778/#Comment_81639778
BW Legal: claim for Napier to a known vulnerable disabled person (accused of 'overstay' which is not legally possible for disabled people). Looks like BW Legal breached CSA rules re vulnerable 'debtors' and ignored the Equality Act:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81566275/#Comment_81566275
BW Legal: template LBC, multiple PCNs, added £200 total DRF. Zero detail of location(s), t&cs or alleged breach(es)!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81639797/#Comment_81639797Civil Enforcement (in-house):
Continuing with defended '5 minute rule' claim, despite the BPA getting CEL to cancel others (sweep them under the carpet) and despite the CRA 2015:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6618635/civil-enforcement-ltd-small-claims-court#latest
VCS in-house litigation: (court judge's words shown in a transcript). VCS issued no stopping PCN at Bristol Airport but "outside of their enforcement area". Quoting DJ Giddens at Southampton: "You cannot make silk out of something that was never silky" "I think I hear the death knell ringing for the claim":
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625532/vcs-crash-and-burn-at-southampton-county-court-bristol-airport-case/p1
DCB Legal: Excel '5 minute rule' claim:
Claim in February, after '5 min rule' ban. Defended robustly. Court time wasted: Judge made special directions ordering 'detailed Particulars'. DCB carried on chasing the D, didn't bother to comply with Judge's order. Claim struck out:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81652019/#Comment_81652019DCB Legal:
Horror story re CCJ against a nurse (residential case). Female nurses now £hundreds out of pocket & scared to park at home putting themselves in danger:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81643880/#Comment_81643880
DCB Legal:
Another horror story: nurse stayed awake 38 hours to apply to set CCJ aside. The vehicle wasn't hers: CEL had misread the VRM. DCB should have seen this but IMO they don't look at cases & sent HCEOs round. A pro bono solicitor sorted it, won & got costs. She's now suing them!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6563622/newbie-ccj-set-aside-application-and-breach-of-data-by-cel-dvla/p1
DCB Legal:
Another horror story: vehicle is not theirs; DCB Group error when soft trace done: fairly common name. The wrong person was sued & now has a CCJ which they are getting a solicitor to unpick.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628349/small-claim-received-for-parking-but-the-claim-could-not-be-found-on-mcol
DCB Legal
Claim to old address = CCJ. But ECP's Data Protection Officer had the new address weeks before. No communication. Champerty? Unhealthy commercial interest & data control by DCB Legal:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81658651/#Comment_81658651
DCB Legal
Bulk litigation and allegedly 'fronting' court fees means DCB's standard model bears all the hallmarks of 'maintaining' claims themselves. PPC had confirmed to the pub that unfair PCNs to a staff member were cancelled but DCB Group sued & sent in HCEOs with a clamp, forced her to pay thousands:https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81638911/#Comment_81638911
DCB Legal: £689 claim, 3 PCNs faulty machine, including a day when the £1 was returned to his card; next day £100 PCN issued! Discontinued as always:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81022316/#Comment_81022316
DCB Legal: Parkmaven admit faulty ANPR. MP involved but DCB Legal still claimed & misled the court Mediator:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625167/preparing-a-defence-at-county-court/p2
DCB Legal
Template claim, multiple PCNs, adding £210 total DRF and years of interest = claim c£900 for just 3 PCNs!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6604367/court-claim-for-900-for-3-old-pcns
DCB Legal
Issued claim 4 days after victim had paid £170. Victim defended; Template letter says DCB are proceeding; nobody reads anything. Questionable modus operandi of champerty & maintenance:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626261/advice-pleaseDCB Legal: 3 PCNs at more than one site 2022/23 but claim form only pleaded one location (£722 claim, £210 of it DRF). Defendant proved car wasn't at the location. Discontinued:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81615216/#Comment_81615216
DCB Legal: 3 PCNs from 2017. 2023 Claim form failed to specify a breach. £890 claimed; still limping on: sum is now c£1000 re case from 8 years ago:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81613638/#Comment_81613638
DCB Legal misleading courts about POFA keeper liability, e.g. Airport sites where POFA 2012 Sch4 does not apply but the claim particulars lie about that:
Stansted, MET Parking
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625624/dcb-legal-met-parking-claim-received
Stansted, MET
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81612132/#Comment_81612132
Stansted, MET
POPLA admitted they got decision wrong (POPLA don't understand the POFA) but refused to reverse it so DCB Legal's claim sausage machine is now suing!
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81369860/#Comment_81369860
Gatwick, ECP:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628398/help-with-template-defence-on-paragrath-3
Not Airport: GBP Management. No NTD, self ticketer took photos & ran. A month later, ZZPS posted £127 NTK (illegal sum) as first notice (keeper wasn't driver). DCB claim form lies about keeper liability:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81655646/#Comment_81655646
DCB Legal are misleading the court in EVERY 2025 Smart Parking claim, tens of thousands all lying about the POFA: keepers sued when not driver; could be a contempt of court. e.g.
BOXXER2025 - £2484 multiple PCNs:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6621222/i-reign-victorious-10-pcn-s-from-smart-parking-dcb-legal-court-claim-2025/p5
HateSmartParking
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628796/smart-parking-dcb-legal-county-court-claim
weby72
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81640652/#Comment_81640652
TimBisley
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81594423/#Comment_81594423
basilpeach
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625981/defence-against-dcb-legal-for-smart-parking/p1
LavenderKuromi
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81537234/#Comment_81537234
ghandigul
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629031/defence-for-dcb-legal-claim
Ihatedcbl
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81643863/#Comment_81643863
helpiamuseless66
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6625722/smart-parking-dcbl/p1
kevmac25
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81622149/#Comment_81622149
frustrated_parker666
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6627200/court-claim-smart-parking-ltd-insufficient-time-paid/p1
xmountaindog
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81612620/#Comment_81612620
qwertyoffice
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81619736/#Comment_81619736
hopeless_case_2
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628627/dcb-legal
Overnight_oats
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81640888/#Comment_81640888
Seasider86
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6624973/claim-form-recieved-following-failed-appeals-wrong-date-also/p1
SeaCarrots
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629378/smart-parking-via-dcb-legal-2025#latest
Dane19
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81599440/#Comment_81599440
starry93
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81647253/#Comment_81647253
Teamad123
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6613362/gym-group-dcb-legal-court-claim-defence/p1
ChonkyDonuts
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6626125/dcb-legal-court-claim
carcarcarcar
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6627228/letter-from-hm-courts-with-n1sdt-form
dunkedonuts
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81628318/#Comment_81628318
lilycat2020
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81642438/#Comment_81642438
PC_MANC
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81606889/#Comment_81606889
0107shumaker
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629996/dcb-acting-for-smart-parking-cc#latest
bobbles (sadly, got default CCJ):
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6629377/smart-parking-dcb-court-claim#lates
JJ58 - vulnerable. Probably got CCJ:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6614668/help-please-at-my-wits-end/p1
DCB Legal
duplicated one 2020 PCN (claimed twice). Victim panicked & paid half of £600, now having to pay to counterclaim:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81613441/#Comment_81613441
DCB Legal: Banked £60 in full settlement for a CEL PCN but now CEL have sent a LBC. No semblance of 'consumer duty'. CEL clearly don't know it was settled. PPCs appear to have no involvement. Looks like champerty:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81612607/#Comment_81612607
DCB Legal
Issued a claim to the keeper, despite the keeper having emailed & transferred liability to the driver months ago:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6628812/pcn-court-claim-dcbl/p1
DCB Legal
Issued two claims dated the same day for the same parties, same car & location. This is an abuse of court:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81622980/#Comment_81622980
DCB Legal claim sent to old address, got a default CCJ then DCB miraculously traced the right address:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6612224/another-out-of-the-blue-ccj-from-dcbl
DCB Legal TWO separate claims (should have been one consolidated claim) sent to old address: caused 2 x default CCJs then DCB miraculously traced the right address and sent in the bailiffs:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6605947/multiple-ccjs-from-pcns-i-was-unaware-about-urgent-please-help/p1
ParkingEye aided & abetted by DCB Legal
Operating inappropriate 24/7 ANPR at people's homes (residential car park) then sued over one PCN (in-house) and let DCB Legal sue SEPARATELY over 2 more (in the same month) doubling pressure, deadlines, costs & CCJ risk:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6618796/defence-template-advice-for-paragraph-3-which-cases-may-be-helpful/p1
DCB Legal: 2 separate claims in a month - one on 1/7 & one on 31/7:
Cases like this and the above (and the one where CEL want to sue over PCN where victim had already paid DCB) double the stress, risk & costs. Happens because DCB Legal appear to 'front' court fees & 'maintain' claims themselves for profit. Little/no client involvement once data transferred. No discussion/joining case files:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81649565/#Comment_81649565PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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I appreciate it's late in the day but given all the excellent advice here just thought I'd add some additional media people can use in their submissions, particularly with respect to the IPC and its "independent" appeals service as compelling evidence for why nothing short of a truly independent external appeals service with truly impartial qualified adjudicators will suffice. It also helps to evidence that competing appeals services has created a race to the bottom where the IPC is happy to fill the void and provide a pro operator model that funnels second stage appeals to a dismissal enabling the debt recovery wheeze and the additional £70 out of thin air to be tacked onto PCNs, all to the detriment of consumers. I will be including this as part of a comprehensive submission to the consultation over this weekend but also for others yet to submit below.
First, the laughable ownership structure of the IAS with regards to the IPC, UNITI and Will Hurley:
Second, the embarrassing adjudication outcome stats for the IAS vs POPLA (which time and again also makes fundamental errors). The numbers below are all taken from the respective annual activity reports for those years. The IAS now actually has all its activity reports online but only the years below actually include the relevant stats for adjudication outcomes for the IAS.
Important note for these numbers:
For 2018, the IAS only listed the percentage outcome and not the absolute numbers so the ones shown here were backcalculated and may differ slightly from the true value (whatever they might be).
Also something else to include is the embarrassing IPC corporate slide deck from 2016 likely made to woo operators over to the IPC from the BPA. Of particular note is slide 7 where the IPC slide deck proudly states how the IAS has a 95% average "success" rate for operators vs POPLA's lower "success" rate in adjudicating PCN appeals.
The slideshow is available at:
https://www.imperial.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IPC-membership-benefits.pptx
If that link magically stops working, I've made sure it is logged on the wayback machine:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250805234205/https://www.imperial.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/IPC-membership-benefits.pptx
You might note the slide deck's author is John Davies of Gladstones.1 -
That's really helpful thankyou @LoneStarState
We also have proof kicking about that the DRAs 'work' on a 'no win no fee basis* which immediately means there is nothing in it for them to honour Appeals Charter evidence or 'allow' Transfers of Liability. So they just put barriers in the way and their fingers in their ears & carry on to court.* including three DRAs who advertised a no-win-no-fee service prior to the IPC Conference a few years ago then swiftly altered their adverts just before a DLUHC Public Consultation.
Anyone got that proof?
Anyone got the old IPC Newsletter with Gladstones pretty much blatantly advertising that they 'front' court fees in exchange for share of proceeds?PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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