Is this a fair quote for a porch build?

casper_gutman

The floorplan seems inconsistent with the elevation.

The elevation show three windows to the left of the doors, not two as on the floorplan. The arrangement on the elevations seems better: if you allocate the lefthand two windows as the area for the toilet then you'll have a space nearer 1.5 metres instead of the 1m shown on the floorplan.

Also, the elevation seems to show double doors. This might make the 1m width on the floorplan seem more realistic, though the plan clearly shows a single opening leaf.

dllive

Youre right @casper_gutman .  I need to update my floorplan! Ill do that and then post it here.

Slinky

Have you thought about a pocket door to the toilet? Gets round the problem of wasting floor space in a limited area.

dllive

Funnily enough, yes, I found myself looking at pocket doors last week. Ive never really liked the 'thought' of them becuase presumed there would gaps around the door when closed. But actually, they look pretty good! I think Im likely to go for a 'normal' door, but Im not averse to the idea as it would save on space, like you say. I will have a further look and make a decision.

Section62

dllive said:

Funnily enough, yes, I found myself looking at pocket doors last week. Ive never really liked the 'thought' of them becuase presumed there would gaps around the door when closed. But actually, they look pretty good! I think Im likely to go for a 'normal' door, but Im not averse to the idea as it would save on space, like you say. I will have a further look and make a decision.

The space saving generally isn't a factor with a WC as you need some extra floorspace to comfortably use a toilet/washbasin, and a fair bit of extra space if you plan for the toilet being used by someone with reduced mobility (e.g. using a frame or walker means more maneuvering space is needed).  Careful thought to the layout typically means the maneuvering space is also used as the door swing space.

As in your plan, the door swing doesn't waste additional space because the partition wall couldn't be moved closer to the end wall because otherwise the toilet would be impossible to use unless you sit on it sideways.

Also, don't forget that the position of the partition wall needs to align with the space (or mullion) between two windows - so you need to make a choice whether to size the WC room based on the window width, or to size the windows based on the dimensions of the WC room.

dllive

Thanks. Yes, I will probably size the windows to the dimension of the WC.

I also had a thought earlier that, now the existing front door will become an interior door (because this structure is now an extension rather than just a porch) whether having patio doors is the right choice? (as per the elevations, not the floor plan as this is - currently - wrong). Or perhaps having patio doors is normal for a main entrance? Something Ive not thought about before. Maybe it is. 

Section62

dllive said:

I also had a thought earlier that, now the existing front door will become an interior door (because this structure is now an extension rather than just a porch) whether having patio doors is the right choice? (as per the elevations, not the floor plan as this is - currently - wrong). Or perhaps having patio doors is normal for a main entrance? Something Ive not thought about before. Maybe it is. 

What kind of patio doors were you thinking of... the traditional sliding type, French, Bi-fold?

dllive

Something like these:

Slinky

Section62 said:

dllive said:

Funnily enough, yes, I found myself looking at pocket doors last week. Ive never really liked the 'thought' of them becuase presumed there would gaps around the door when closed. But actually, they look pretty good! I think Im likely to go for a 'normal' door, but Im not averse to the idea as it would save on space, like you say. I will have a further look and make a decision.

The space saving generally isn't a factor with a WC as you need some extra floorspace to comfortably use a toilet/washbasin, and a fair bit of extra space if you plan for the toilet being used by someone with reduced mobility (e.g. using a frame or walker means more maneuvering space is needed).  Careful thought to the layout typically means the maneuvering space is also used as the door swing space.

As in your plan, the door swing doesn't waste additional space because the partition wall couldn't be moved closer to the end wall because otherwise the toilet would be impossible to use unless you sit on it sideways.

I would advise caution regarding the suggestion that the swing space is also the maneuvering space. Don't forget you've got to get around the end of the door, possibly with the walking frame. In our previous home we intended to have a toilet with wall mounted slim basin, with the door opening inwards. We found that there wasn't enough room to get past the door comfortably and had to change it to the door opening outwards.

Our pocket door has no gaps around the door when closed. I'll get a photo of it for you.

WIAWSNB

I see no reason why the loo door shouldn't be outward opening - jobbie jobbed. 
What will be in the way - your comfy chair? That will need taking into account, of course, but if a swing door works, then swing I would.
Why would you want French doors to the outside? Would one wing be enough for easy egress, or would you need to open both most times - a real pain?
You could go sliding patio instead, but this would need a much wider opening which would take over one or more of the windows - which might be ok with a nice design.
However, don't forget you have a purdy house there, and I fear it just won't suit.
I'd go clear glass for the loo window, and fit a nice - say timber - Venetians inside. Obscure glass doesn't look nice imo, and you may wish to continue the Venetian theme over the other windows too, if it's sunny-south facing, or to make it look cosy.
I probably wouldn't bother with a wee end window at the stack end - unnecessary expense, but would at the other if there are voos. But I'm not sure I'd make it full 1.5m wide, but would add bits of end corner wall. This is so it doesn't all look like a mini conservatory, which I think it currently risks doing. 

On that note, I think I'd personally go for a conventional solid door there, one with a suitably decorative glass insert - make it a feature, a statement, and in keeping with your house age and style.

Do you really want it to look like a lean-to PVC connie? :-(