Bought house, wood burning stove gone!

mikrt

Tabieth said:

subjecttocontract said:

Tabieth said:

I’d be glad it’s gone. They’re terrible for air pollution and health. 

Not if you are in the property, in the middle of winter with the doors and windows closed....there is no pollution or health hazard then.

Alternatively, it also beats the hell out of sitting there freezing on a cold winter's night.

Indoor air pollution is a huge problem, especially given how much time we spend indoors. 

And I’m obviously not advocating no heating at all! That’s also very bad for health. Just pointing out that log burners aren’t healthy. 

After having one 12 years ago in a previous house, I think the pollution is mainly airborne outside the house. You could see where particles had settled on the roof and gone green over time around the chimney.

The stove in question has a sealed glass door. 

mikrt

And BTW, we're in rural West Wales, no mains gas. 

Section62

Tabieth said:

subjecttocontract said:

Tabieth said:

I’d be glad it’s gone. They’re terrible for air pollution and health. 

Not if you are in the property, in the middle of winter with the doors and windows closed....there is no pollution or health hazard then.

Alternatively, it also beats the hell out of sitting there freezing on a cold winter's night.

Indoor air pollution is a huge problem, especially given how much time we spend indoors. 

And I’m obviously not advocating no heating at all! That’s also very bad for health. Just pointing out that log burners aren’t healthy. 

All depends on the design of the burner and how it is operated.

The door should have an effective seal which prevents combustion products entering the room.  Obviously the door seal won't work when the door is opened, but if the chimney has sufficient draw then the spillage with the door opened should be minimal and further minimised by only having the door open for the shortest time necessary.  The type and moisture content of the fuel also affects the production of harmful products, which is something the user can control to a large degree.

There are many things which impact on indoor air quality.  It would be wrong to claim log burners are healthy, but taking a wider view of dangers in the home I'd personally put a properly installed, maintained, and operated log burner fairly low on my list of concerns.

kimwp

Tabieth said:

subjecttocontract said:

Tabieth said:

I’d be glad it’s gone. They’re terrible for air pollution and health. 

Not if you are in the property, in the middle of winter with the doors and windows closed....there is no pollution or health hazard then.

Alternatively, it also beats the hell out of sitting there freezing on a cold winter's night.

Indoor air pollution is a huge problem, especially given how much time we spend indoors. 

And I’m obviously not advocating no heating at all! That’s also very bad for health. Just pointing out that log burners aren’t healthy. 

They are super bad for health and the environment too, as are outdoor fires. Shame considering they are so lovely.

kimwp

An interesting read-
https://www.dsawsp.org/secondhand-smoke/the-other-secondhand-smoke

youth_leader

I sold my house with two woodburners, two open coal fires and an aga in 2020,  and was very surprised to see the 'new' findings just after I'd sold.  We had a listed building with single glazing and did have oil central heating, but I think my kids would have frozen to death if I hadn't lit the fires.  House had a cellar the whole length of it and very poor insulation.  We were in a rural situation without gas.  

Albermarle

kimwp said:

An interesting read-
https://www.dsawsp.org/secondhand-smoke/the-other-secondhand-smoke

I know there have been studies about the level of particulates emitted etc .
However as this study is by 'Doctors against wood smoke pollution' I think you have to read it in that context.

RHemmings

Albermarle said:

kimwp said:

An interesting read-
https://www.dsawsp.org/secondhand-smoke/the-other-secondhand-smoke

I know there have been studies about the level of particulates emitted etc .
However as this study is by 'Doctors against wood smoke pollution' I think you have to read it in that context.

I googled and there are plenty of other studies. https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/indoor-wood-stoves-release-harmful-emissions-our-homes-study-finds  That's just one. 

35har1old

subjecttocontract said:

Properties for sale with gas central heating, bathrooms & fitted kitchens do not need the individual components to be listed. A wood burning stove does not form part of a larger system, is an optional extra and an entirely separate item that would need to be listed.

If it is bolted to floor or wall and connected to a chimney it's a fixture 

Grumpy_chap

daveyjp said:

No need to put it on any list.  Was the gas boiler, the bath, the toilet, the kitchen units?

A woodburner, which forms an integral part of the property, is exactly the same and if removal is planned it needs to be negotiated as part of the sale.

The very first question on the F&F form is:

"Boiler / Immersion Heater" - Included - Excluded - None - Price £ - Comments

Bath is also listed. (section 3)

Fitted kitchen units are listed (section 7)

https://www.rlo.law/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/fc.pdf