Car will take a year to repair - what can I do?

daveyjp

Chances are any courtesy car will be one of the main dealer demonstrators and will be swapped every 12 weeks/6,000 miles so it can be sold as such.

prowla

boobyd said:

Ibrahim5 said:

Any insight/advice appreciated

In future stick with standard petrol/diesel cars.

Zzzzzz ,waiting for the usual comment, didn't take long

It is a good point, though; this does highlight a significant EV issue.

How can it take a year to fix?

Taggo

The maths for those interested

I bought it interest free for 22k with 24k miles on the clock, 100% battery health.

I AVG. 3.8 miles pkwh, 10000 miles costs me £200 a year.

My previous Sportage averaged 40mpg, that's £1633.

So saving £1433 on fuel a year. Insurance was comparable. And it's a nicer car to drive.

I basically have to change tyres and get a service. I almost never use the brakes so pads and discs will last much longer.

EST loan, 0%, so il keep the car 6 years. 

Believe me I crunched the numbers a lot, I'm definitely saving money over my previous car, plus I'm saving on home electric. The washing machine, tumble drier etc only go on at cheap rates.

Of course I could save more by getting a car for a couple of grand and not paying anything off, but I don't want to.

I'm not trying to sell ev's to anyone, most people are set in their ways and I really don't care. I've no horse in the race, I really care not what people drive. 

I done it to save money and I am.

Yea this situation is a bit crap, but I see it as when I get a new battery, it's like an ICE getting a new engine. Will last much longer than I intended to keep it so I'll prob get more years out of it than I planned, so should save more.

WellKnownSid

prowla said:

boobyd said:

Ibrahim5 said:

Any insight/advice appreciated

In future stick with standard petrol/diesel cars.

Zzzzzz ,waiting for the usual comment, didn't take long

It is a good point, though; this does highlight a significant EV issue.

How can it take a year to fix?

Parts not available.  I remember the Mercedes BlueEfficiency diesel thing well where the dealers couldn't get hold of the injectors fast enough - and when they did they had an MTBF of about 24 hours.  Anyone buying a JLR car will also be well used to these kinds of timescales but every manufacturer has had its problem child.

Just in time + global supply chains are great when you have the luxury of time and a stable, planned life-cycle - but things quickly descend into a complete shambles when there is a manufacturing issue and suddenly an unplanned spike in demand - especially in a non-service component that is designed to have a usable life longer than the life of the car in the first place.

Ibrahim5

Also got the problem of the car losing power and the handbrake releasing itself. The recalls. Doesn't sound great to me. I like a car that just works. Never had one recall for any of my cars.

Taggo

Ibrahim5 said:

Also got the problem of the car losing power and the handbrake releasing itself. The recalls. Doesn't sound great to me. I like a car that just works. Never had one recall for any of my cars.

Many newer cars will have some form of recall, but probably minor. This includes ICE, because computers are running all newer cars, and it's generally the computer that has the fault.

There's no getting away from software in newer cars regardless of the fuel type. 

WellKnownSid

Ibrahim5 said:

Also got the problem of the car losing power and the handbrake releasing itself. The recalls. Doesn't sound great to me. I like a car that just works. Never had one recall for any of my cars.

Our EV hasn’t had a recall but all of our diesel cars have - one took six months before the car could be booked in with the dealer giving advice “to avoid the car catching fire in the meantime” followed by the car being off the road for a week whilst it was sorted.

Statistically - it means nothing though.

Modern cars are complex and sometimes engineered into extinction (wet belts, anyone?)

jimjames

WellKnownSid said:

paul_c123 said:

Those figures don't seem to relate to anything normal usage. £6500 electric bill saving in 18 months???

And without the exact dates or make/model car, can't really say anything about the £13k purchase except that 3 yrs ago, the only £32k EVs were..........Renault Zoe???

Renault Zoe yes.

Typical family home - we use 25,000 kWh a year.  EV tariff (6.7p for 7 hours overnight) saves us close to 50%.

25000kWh a year doesn't sound like a typical family usage. Ours is around 5000kWh and that's high

WellKnownSid

jimjames said:

WellKnownSid said:

paul_c123 said:

Those figures don't seem to relate to anything normal usage. £6500 electric bill saving in 18 months???

And without the exact dates or make/model car, can't really say anything about the £13k purchase except that 3 yrs ago, the only £32k EVs were..........Renault Zoe???

Renault Zoe yes.

Typical family home - we use 25,000 kWh a year.  EV tariff (6.7p for 7 hours overnight) saves us close to 50%.

25000kWh a year doesn't sound like a typical family usage. Ours is around 5000kWh and that's high

Most of the house is heated by a 60kW oil furnace in one of the outbuildings but we do have 8 or 9 of the lower-occupancy rooms with electrical space heating - so roughly 24kW of installed load off the bat.

When we moved in there was a single compact fluorescent lamp in a random bathroom bulb-holder - I replaced over 100 tungsten bulbs with LEDs - must have been at least 8kW of installed load there!

Herzlos

daveyjp said:

Chances are any courtesy car will be one of the main dealer demonstrators and will be swapped every 12 weeks/6,000 miles so it can be sold as such.

For something like this it's almost certainly going to be a vehicle coming from a hire company and not the courtesy car fleet, since the dealer won't want their courtesy car unavailable for that long and will be billing the manufacturer. 

I've no idea if the hire company would want to change the car periodically, though there's no reason they couldn't.