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ECP/DCB Legal case 2026 Dispute Resolution Hearing N24 received

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,994 Forumite
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    No SAR is needed at all.

    DCB Legal claims for single PCNs from ECP are never carried all the way through to a hearing. Defending is free and even easier than appealing. You won't need to see their evidence bundle because they'll discontinue by the New Year, around the time the witness statements and their hearing fee are due. It'll all die a death.

    As my daughter made the disputed payment at time of alleged PC, and completed the appeals form on my behalf (in my name), she has no recollection if she named me as the driver.
    Well she clearly did, if you are the recipient of this Claim form as the named Defendant. Are you? You can add 'and driver' to the end of paragraph 2 without any issues at all because they claim will go nowhere.


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  • Thank you - for response above.  My kids think I'm an eejit when it comes to anything to do with phones and apps so always try n take over!!! 
    I had a brief look at the consultation papers a couple of days ago and will get onto it as soon as tyis defence is submitted
  • Proposed paragraph 3.  Have tried to keep as concise as possible. Do I need to mention 

    a)appeal refused     b) no response from landowner (large investment/development company)  c)being elderly

    3.  Following a short, unintentional overstay, the defendant gave a relative £1 to pay for an additional hour.  No operative pay and display machines were on site.  Pay by phone transaction was made by same relative, for an additional hour as the defendant did not have the required apps on their phone. A message was received, by relative, stating “no charge payable” or words to that effect. 

    Thanks 


  • Coupon-mad
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    Change:

    "Following a short, unintentional overstay, the defendant gave a relative..."

    to

    The Defendant had parked at the site and wished to extend their stay. Being elderly and often finding themselves digitally excluded in car parks that use apps, the Defendant gave a relative

    You can also tack on the end that the Defendant disputed the charge but ... blah blah
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  • Slight re-jiig following above comments 

    The Defendant had parked at the site and wished to extend their stay. Being elderly and often finding themselves digitally excluded in car parks that use apps, the defendant gave an accompanying relative, £1 to pay for the additional hour to cover the excess of 25 minutes.  No operative pay and display machines were on site.  A pay by phone transaction was made by relative. A message was received stating “no charge payable” or wording to that effect.  Rejection notice received, by defendant, following an online appeal submission, disputing the charge.  

    Is there anything else left which I should say in regard to any possible grace period, confusion, time entering and leaving car park or woud this come, if ever received, the WS

    Regards
  • Gr1pr
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    Leave the detailed stories for your WS next year, which is why it is called that !  The defence must be clear but concise,  as shown by your proposal draft 
  • Thank you for assistance and advice to date.  Defence completed and subitted via MCOL 27/08/25.
    I'll have a couple of days head space then will make a start on the consultation paper ad hope it is not toooo mind boggling

  • Acknowledgement of my defence from CNBC, dated 28th August 2025 and recieved by me 3rd Sept.  Am now awaiting possible arrival of DQ.

    2 days ago (24th Sept), I received the inevitable email from DCB legal - Bulk Litigation   I have not responded to this email

    section of email  Quote:

    "Having reviewed the content of your defence, we write to inform you that our client intends to proceed with the claim.

    In due course, the Court will direct both parties to each file a directions questionnaire. In preparation for that, please find attached a copy of the Claimant's, which we confirm has been filed with the Court."

    The usual other blather about settling, phoning them, and confirming my email.  Do I need to respond regarding any limitations on format or size of documents I can receive?  I assume this is also to try and get me to respond directly with them!! 

    I'm wondering how can they say their DQ has been filed with the court - if they have not even been issued yet!!??

    1 question I do have - should I receive DQ N180 is regarding F1  Hearing Venue.  "The Claimant's home court"

    I assume their home court will be St Helens, which is also my closest (by just under 1 mile!)   My prefered court would be Peston (totally in the opposite direction).  Far more accessible and able to use direct public transport too. Could use my age as an excuse also, and not being confident in driving to places I am unfamiliar with!  Although only 11 miles away it's not an area I visit.

    Thanks - also managed to fight my way through the consultation document.

  • Le_Kirk
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    When you receive your copy of the DQ (N180) by posy, download one from the Gov.uk and complete it and it it you will be able to choose YOUR court.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 27 September 2025 at 4:18PM
    I'm wondering how can they say their DQ has been filed with the court - if they have not even been issued yet!!?

    Because it has been filed with the CNBC.

    As seen in every case: they download them and submit them early, as is already explained in the first 8 steps in the Template Defence thread.

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