Grace period before/after paid period

Kaizen2024

Sorry I don’t speak much Latin, but my comment was 100% factual and addressed the OPs query as to whether 10 minutes and 43 seconds exceeded the 10 minute Grace Period.

When the clock should start/stop based on the terms of the contact is another matter all together.

Coupon-mad

Kaizen2024 said:

Sorry I don’t speak much Latin, but my comment was 100% factual and addressed the OPs query as to whether 10 minutes and 43 seconds exceeded the 10 minute Grace Period.

But it was incorrect (parking ATA style) opinion - not fact - because the 10 minute grace period is a minimum.

If £100 is argued by the industry to be 'in the region of' the £85 seen in Beavis, then 10 mins 43 seconds is certainly 'in the region of' a minimum 10 minute grace period.

You can't have it both ways.

Timewarp

Car1980 said:

Kaizen2024 said:

10 minutes and 1 second exceeds the 10 minute Grace Period.

BTW the majority of people here will tell you not to pay the charge even if you were two hours over; or if you did not pay for parking at all for that matter.

Hi mate. Can you tell us what the contract says, verbatim?

Rather silly to give people money on the basis of a contract that doesn't clearly imply agreement of such terms.

And 1 second over ten minutes is clearly de minimis, so that's not a goer.

Link to photo of T&C's here

Timewarp

Kaizen2024 said:

Sorry I don’t speak much Latin, but my comment was 100% factual and addressed the OPs query as to whether 10 minutes and 43 seconds exceeded the 10 minute Grace Period.

When the clock should start/stop based on the terms of the contact is another matter all together.

I've now got my bank statement and I was actually 9 seconds under the 10 mins grace period

Kaizen2024

Again, my post was factual as 10 minutes 1 second does exceed 10 minutes.. whether a judge/assessor might take a view that 43 seconds is too negligible to warrant a Parking Charge is another matter.

Timewarp

Kaizen2024 said:

Again, my post was factual as 10 minutes 1 second does exceed 10 minutes.. whether a judge/assessor might take a view that 43 seconds is too negligible to warrant a Parking Charge is another matter.

Agree but now I have the exact times I was under the 10 minutes, not over. 

Coupon-mad

Kaizen2024 said:

Again, my post was factual as 10 minutes 1 second does exceed 10 minutes.. whether a judge/assessor might take a view that 43 seconds is too negligible to warrant a Parking Charge is another matter.

I'm sure we both know that any judge or an independent, reasonable Assessor would because the Consumer Rights Act (fairness and proportionality) is a matter of law...

... unless they were an IAS 'jobbing legal' who may have a vested interest in cases to proceeding on a conveyor belt to court because chances are they could get that job (hearing rep) later down the line too?

Kaizen2024

Timewarp said:

Kaizen2024 said:

Again, my post was factual as 10 minutes 1 second does exceed 10 minutes.. whether a judge/assessor might take a view that 43 seconds is too negligible to warrant a Parking Charge is another matter.

Agree but now I have the exact times I was under the 10 minutes, not over. 

If you still have the ticket, or if you have access to another from this location, and an expiry time is printed on it; you could argue that the expiry time is misleading if they are calculating from time of entry.

Coupon-mad

Kaizen2024 said:

Timewarp said:

Kaizen2024 said:

Again, my post was factual as 10 minutes 1 second does exceed 10 minutes.. whether a judge/assessor might take a view that 43 seconds is too negligible to warrant a Parking Charge is another matter.

Agree but now I have the exact times I was under the 10 minutes, not over. 

If you still have the ticket, or if you have access to another from this location, and an expiry time is printed on it; you could argue that the expiry time is misleading if they are calculating from time of entry.

Indeed. 

Why doesn't the Joint Code include that as a consideration period rule for paid-for car parks?

Kaizen2024

Most operators charge from time of entry to exit and correctly state as such in the contract (the one provided by the OP does not). If the motorist does not agree with such a term, they have the option to leave. It’s best practice for the terminal to produce a receipt (with time of purchase only) on this basis (instead of expiry).