New Open reach box 10cm X 12cm required on house

AndyPK

In 2019 I was with Vodafone BB on 74Mb (speed was good ~71) and left them to move to Virgin in 2022.

I signed up with vodafone today on 74Mb again. I wasn't expecting any 'electric' work to be required, I simply intended to plug in the new router to the BT/OR point.

I have a text message from openreach saying:

They will run a new fibre cable from the street to the premises following the same route as the existing cable.

We will attach a small connector box to the outside and connect the new fibre cable to that.

What the hell are they doing? I only signed up to the slow speed.

Can they really leave a fibre point outside, and connect to copper wires going thru the house wall?

It says I don't need to be present.

A couple of years ago, they did install points in the road. But I thought that was for youfibre & City Fibre. (I think vodafone like to use these, but I didn't think that would be anything to do with openreach?)

TadleyBaggie

All copper connections are being phased out. All new connections going forward will be fibre regardless of speed.

AndyPK

So once they got fibre to the outside wall, they will want to come into the house at a later date? To hook the fibre up to power etc. 

iniltous

You apparently have Openreach FTTP available, if they are sending you a text , so the existing copper cabling is effectively redundant and you will be provided with a new full fibre connection, this requires a box called a CSP fitted usually on the external wall and the external optical cable is fed into that ‘box’ and an internal optical cable ran from the CSP to the location of the ONT ( a main powered box inside the property that the router connect to ) 
Its odd that they says you don’t need to be present because if it’s a single stage installation then you do need to be present, if it’s a two stage installation, the box is fitted on the external wall on the first visit , and you don’t need to be home but being there is worthwhile so you can ask exactly where the CSP is going to be fitted ,  later the internal cabling and ONT are fitted on the second stage visit , obviously you need to be in for that 

AndyPK

Thanks. 

Yeah I am thinking I need to be there. 

I don’t want all this new equipment in my kitchen. Can’t connect my Ethernet cables there. 

I have already thought where I would like it when I pondered youfibre

AndyPK

I told them I need to be present 
and they will do all the work in one go on the installation date 

iniltous

What makes you think the equipment will be fitted in the kitchen ?, the CSP ( the external box ) location depends on if the address is served by underground means ( duct ) or overhead from a pole , with underground where the duct appears at the house wall is usually where the CSP is fitted , the ONT can be where you want it ( within reason ) , it doesn’t have to be directly behind the CSP , so if the CSP is on the wall outside the kitchen that doesn’t mean the ONT has to go inside the kitchen , there can be upto 30 metres of cable between the CSP and ONT 

AndyPK

Can I have the router on the other side of the room to the ONT, connected via existing cat5e? 

Is the phone plugged into the ONT? 

wongataa

AndyPK said:

Can I have the router on the other side of the room to the ONT, connected via existing cat5e?

Yes

AndyPK said:

Is the phone plugged into the ONT? 

The phone will be plugged into the router.

iniltous

https://www.openreach.com/help-and-support/full-fibre-broadband-installation-checklist

AndyPK

Well even though I said I needed to be there, OR turned up this afternoon lol. 

They pulled in a rope from my house to the manhole. 

Trouble is there is no duct between the manhole and cab. 

So they need to dig road up.  

My neighbour ordered fibre, so there was already wanting to rig the road. 

I asked if they could connect it up using copper and the OR seam to think they could in the mean time. (Uses same router )