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Claim form for PCN - help with defence

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  • Gr1pr
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    edited 30 July at 8:02PM
    Well done,   Another one bites the dust   !

    Give us a feedback report on what happened  ?  .   what won it ?   Etc
  • Coupon-mad
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    Update - I won. Thank you for all of the help and advice from everyone who contributed on this forum. It is really appreciated.
    Congrats!

    ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

    Tell us more: in person? Which court!?

    What did their rep say?

    What did the judge say?

    What did you say?

    Which point won it?

    Did you ask for and get costs?
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  • Le_Kirk
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    Excellent outcome and well-written court report.  Glad to have been of some help.
  • Coupon-mad
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    This is such a powerful and encouraging summary of a hearing, that I've just linked your post in the NEWBIES thread!

    Well done! You beat DCB legal/ Excel Parking!

    Now we ask that you stick around just a little longer to respond to the Public Consultation.

    What parking operators do is is a national disgrace and a drain on Society, in terms of money and anxiety. If you want to be part of the push to change things in future, it's very important that people like you tell the Government that:

    a) you have no faith in POPLA or the IAS and that there must be the SINGLE APPEALS SERVICE that the Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019 *almost* promised. As long as it is independent and impartial (and only ONE appeals service, not two involved in a race to the bottom) that will give a real option to resolve disputed cases out of court.

    b).  THAT THE ENRICHMENT OF 'DEBT RECOVERY FEES' MUST BE COMPLETELY BANNED. DISPUTED CASES ARE NOT SOLVED BY DEMANDING MORE MONEY AND OFFERING A 'PAYMENT PLAN' THAT ONLY DUPED VICTIMS PAY. DRAS LIKE DCB LEGAL MAKE NO MONEY IF THEY HANDLE DISPUTES IN THE SPIRIT OF THE APPEALS CHARTER, WHICH IS WHY THEY ALWAYS PLOUGH ON TO COURT CLAIMS AND CCJs, RATHER THAN OFFERING REAL RESOLUTION AT PRE-ACTION STAGE.

    c). Tell them about your experience and the complete and utter waste of court resources caused on a grand scale by DCB Legal and aggressive clients like Excel Parking who knew which car your payment related to, used faulty keypad equipment (not your fault) and should have cancelled the PCN months ago.

    d). There's a question about a new mitigation: where a consumer can evidence that a breach 'wasn't their fault'. Please answer that one to ask why the MHCLG thinks the burden of evidence should be on the consumer, in cases with faulty keypads and systems? How on earth can the motorist provide 'evidence' at appeal stage if the system/machine itself caused a keying error, for example? This is an unfair burden. The motorist's account should be believed unless the operator can show evidence that everything was working and they couldn't possibly have matched up the payment with a simple 'fuzzy whitelist' search or - better - a mandatory check by a human!

    Responses are invited to the Consultation now:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025/p1

    Do it this month pleeease!

    We will discuss it further next week on that thread if you want ideas. Stick around. You are an inspiration and - if you gave time every so often - you may like to come here and post on threads to help others facing hearings.


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  • flowercuppatea
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    Thanks again @Le_Kirk and @Coupon-mad
    I will respond to the consultation, no problem. I've also contacted my local MP to update him on the outcome, he is on our side with this and was really chuffed with the outcome. He's suggested I go and meet with him to talk through the experience so that he is further informed in his efforts to push changes with this forward. I'm going to do this. I hope it helps. 
  • Coupon-mad
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    Thanks again @Le_Kirk and @Coupon-mad
    I will respond to the consultation, no problem. I've also contacted my local MP to update him on the outcome, he is on our side with this and was really chuffed with the outcome. He's suggested I go and meet with him to talk through the experience so that he is further informed in his efforts to push changes with this forward. I'm going to do this. I hope it helps. 
    This is all brilliant.  :D
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Le_Kirk
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    This is such a powerful and encouraging summary of a hearing, that I've just linked your post in the NEWBIES thread!
    I've also used it as an example to another poster asking for advice about hearings procedure.
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