LL trying to raise rent again

silvercar

BikingBud said:

saajan_12 said:

ARHemmings said:

FlorayG said:

Putting it aside 'in case' is pretty much 'paying it' in real terms especially as the tribunal will find in favour of the LL if the rent is still reasonable. What I meant was, the increased rent will still be payable back to the date the LL set. Once the new RR Law is in effect, this will change, the increased rent will only have to be paid from the date of the decision which means that pretty much EVERY tenant is going to go to tribunal on receipt of a S13. The idiot government haven't thought this through at all ( and that, OP, is why your LL is putting up the rent NOW)

Putting it aside has a lot of advantages over paying it. As if the tribunal decides a rent increase less than the asked for increase, the tenant doesn't have to then recover the money from the landlord. 

For the other discussion in the paragraph: I pass because I'm trying to avoid debating house prices and the economy. 

I don't think there's an actual suggestion it would be better to pay if they didn't have to pending a decision. Just that a lot of the disadvantages of paying the new rent remain for someone who can't afford the new rent. The biggest disadvantage is that money isn't available for other bills, so if that means that credit reports are affected or food is a struggle etc then that's a problem. OP would have to move out to somewhere more affordable. 

But if the proposed increase is in line with the rates locally there is nowhere cheaper!

Which means moving somewhere smaller/ less desirable/ further away and commuting. There are many places in the country with lower rents. 

Oneplanetonelife

We have continued paying the old rent so it will be a while now before LL can officially get us out. They may decide to just keep us in paying the old rent as that’s all we can offer 

GDB2222

Oneplanetonelife said:

We have continued paying the old rent so it will be a while now before LL can officially get us out. They may decide to just keep us in paying the old rent as that’s all we can offer 

Can I ask what you are looking for from this forum? Advice, sympathy, or simply somewhere to vent? Sympathy tends to be in short supply, unfortunately. 

Oneplanetonelife

Advice is what I’m after

freesha

You need to look elsewhere. Did I understand it right that your rent is £2400 and UC pay £2000? The taxpayer cannot be expected to sustain this - you need to live more within your means.

LightFlare

Oneplanetonelife said:

Advice is what I’m after

Plenty has been given - although the quality has been dependant on the details given

It’s obvious tou have financial issues and people have tried to help and point you in the right direction - but as they say; you can lead a horse to water, but……

GDB2222

Oneplanetonelife said:

Advice is what I’m after

Okay.  The annual increases in rent are not too far away from what most people would expect, given the inflation we have seen. So, let’s assume the rent is about right for the place you are living in. 

But, the current rent is more than you can afford. It is £200 more than UC pays towards rent, so you must be using some of the other money UC pays you for rent. And, as you say, other bills are not being paid.

So, logically, you should find somewhere cheaper. Or, get more income. And, that’s the case whether you successfully persuade the LL not to increase the rent this year. You are not making ends meet as it is, so you need to do something about it, or sooner or later you will have a problem you can’t ignore. 

There are other possibilities. Reduce your spending on things, perhaps. If you have lots of outstanding credit and cannot pay, then maybe go bankrupt . 

However, ultimately, nobody but you is affected by this. So, rather than complaining, you should get on with sorting your life out. All the advice you have received is perfectly obvious, and I’m sure you thought of most of it yourself, anyway.. 

jimbog

Oneplanetonelife said:

Advice is what I’m after

You will need to move to a cheaper area

Oneplanetonelife

freesha said:

You need to look elsewhere. Did I understand it right that your rent is £2400 and UC pay £2000? The taxpayer cannot be expected to sustain this - you need to live more within your means.

You say the taxpayer can’t support this shows you don’t understand the situation 

the government chose to put money o top of people’s rents to push rents up. It’s propping up the property market and the banks.

if the government took away the UC and people had to pay rents out of their own pocket then there would be mass defaults and rents would fall to what people could afford out of their own pockets.

There would be mass repossessions as people could not afford their mortgages 

this would crash the property market and the banks would collapse 

Emmia

Oneplanetonelife said:

freesha said:

You need to look elsewhere. Did I understand it right that your rent is £2400 and UC pay £2000? The taxpayer cannot be expected to sustain this - you need to live more within your means.

You say the taxpayer can’t support this shows you don’t understand the situation 

the government chose to put money o top of people’s rents to push rents up. It’s propping up the property market and the banks.

if the government took away the UC and people had to pay rents out of their own pocket then there would be mass defaults and rents would fall to what people could afford out of their own pockets.

There would be mass repossessions as people could not afford their mortgages 

this would crash the property market and the banks would collapse 

But this isn't really a reason that the state/taxpayer should continue to fund the OPs rent ever upwards. £2k a month is a fair chunk of cash for the state to pay out, but still it is not enough for the place the OP lives in... Or (more accurately) wants to continue to live in. 

The OP has to either find a way to earn more money, or move somewhere they can afford themselves or with whatever state support is available. That new place could be somewhere cheaper in their current area, or in a cheaper area elsewhere. 

There is no other solution, as much as the OP might want there to be.