LL trying to raise rent again

Markmywords

Oneplanetonelife said:

Our LL wants to raise the rent again but last time we told him we can’t afford this and all the bills! we now can’t afford council tax or utilities all our funds go to pay rent ehat is Happening this country 

We said no to LL so what happens next?

How much is the increase? When was the last time your rent was increased?

RHemmings

FlorayG said:

Putting it aside 'in case' is pretty much 'paying it' in real terms especially as the tribunal will find in favour of the LL if the rent is still reasonable. What I meant was, the increased rent will still be payable back to the date the LL set. Once the new RR Law is in effect, this will change, the increased rent will only have to be paid from the date of the decision which means that pretty much EVERY tenant is going to go to tribunal on receipt of a S13. The idiot government haven't thought this through at all ( and that, OP, is why your LL is putting up the rent NOW)

Putting it aside has a lot of advantages over paying it. As if the tribunal decides a rent increase less than the asked for increase, the tenant doesn't have to then recover the money from the landlord. 

For the other discussion in the paragraph: I pass because I'm trying to avoid debating house prices and the economy. 

Oneplanetonelife

theartfullodger said:

Nothing stopping you proposing a rent reduction.  Do it!

Yes we have asked to keep it as it is for another year.

im not bluffing we will move out then they have void periods and risk trying to get another good tenant 

Oneplanetonelife

Markmywords said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

Our LL wants to raise the rent again but last time we told him we can’t afford this and all the bills! we now can’t afford council tax or utilities all our funds go to pay rent ehat is Happening this country 

We said no to LL so what happens next?

How much is the increase? When was the last time your rent was increased?

It started off £1800 month then they put it upto £2000 a year later then this time last year they put it upto £2200 and this is the limit of what UC will pay us. Now they want to put it upto £2400 and that is more than UC will pay for this area.

FlorayG

Oneplanetonelife said:

Markmywords said:

Oneplanetonelife said:

Our LL wants to raise the rent again but last time we told him we can’t afford this and all the bills! we now can’t afford council tax or utilities all our funds go to pay rent ehat is Happening this country 

We said no to LL so what happens next?

How much is the increase? When was the last time your rent was increased?

It started off £1800 month then they put it upto £2000 a year later then this time last year they put it upto £2200 and this is the limit of what UC will pay us. Now they want to put it upto £2400 and that is more than UC will pay for this area.

Whats the going rate for similar properties in your area?

Bigphil1474

I thought all your funds were going to paying rent, but they aren't your funds? TBH, £2400 a month is a lot to expect the taxpayer to fund, so maybe time to move out. Tell the LL and he can decide if that's a better option or to leave the rent as it is.

saajan_12

RHemmings said:

FlorayG said:

Putting it aside 'in case' is pretty much 'paying it' in real terms especially as the tribunal will find in favour of the LL if the rent is still reasonable. What I meant was, the increased rent will still be payable back to the date the LL set. Once the new RR Law is in effect, this will change, the increased rent will only have to be paid from the date of the decision which means that pretty much EVERY tenant is going to go to tribunal on receipt of a S13. The idiot government haven't thought this through at all ( and that, OP, is why your LL is putting up the rent NOW)

Putting it aside has a lot of advantages over paying it. As if the tribunal decides a rent increase less than the asked for increase, the tenant doesn't have to then recover the money from the landlord. 

For the other discussion in the paragraph: I pass because I'm trying to avoid debating house prices and the economy. 

I don't think there's an actual suggestion it would be better to pay if they didn't have to pending a decision. Just that a lot of the disadvantages of paying the new rent remain for someone who can't afford the new rent. The biggest disadvantage is that money isn't available for other bills, so if that means that credit reports are affected or food is a struggle etc then that's a problem. OP would have to move out to somewhere more affordable. 

Murphybear

You may be entitled to some help with your council tax if your income is low(ish).  You don’t have to be unemployed or near the breadline to get some help.  Have a look at the benefit checkers.

where do you live?  Your rent seems very high.  Are there any cheaper properties available.

These points may already have been covered.  

RHemmings

saajan_12 said:

RHemmings said:

FlorayG said:

Putting it aside 'in case' is pretty much 'paying it' in real terms especially as the tribunal will find in favour of the LL if the rent is still reasonable. What I meant was, the increased rent will still be payable back to the date the LL set. Once the new RR Law is in effect, this will change, the increased rent will only have to be paid from the date of the decision which means that pretty much EVERY tenant is going to go to tribunal on receipt of a S13. The idiot government haven't thought this through at all ( and that, OP, is why your LL is putting up the rent NOW)

Putting it aside has a lot of advantages over paying it. As if the tribunal decides a rent increase less than the asked for increase, the tenant doesn't have to then recover the money from the landlord. 

For the other discussion in the paragraph: I pass because I'm trying to avoid debating house prices and the economy. 

I don't think there's an actual suggestion it would be better to pay if they didn't have to pending a decision. Just that a lot of the disadvantages of paying the new rent remain for someone who can't afford the new rent. The biggest disadvantage is that money isn't available for other bills, so if that means that credit reports are affected or food is a struggle etc then that's a problem. OP would have to move out to somewhere more affordable. 

Yes, that's clear with the poster's clarification. It was an earlier post that I replied to. 

Oneplanetonelife

saajan_12 said:

RHemmings said:

FlorayG said:

Putting it aside 'in case' is pretty much 'paying it' in real terms especially as the tribunal will find in favour of the LL if the rent is still reasonable. What I meant was, the increased rent will still be payable back to the date the LL set. Once the new RR Law is in effect, this will change, the increased rent will only have to be paid from the date of the decision which means that pretty much EVERY tenant is going to go to tribunal on receipt of a S13. The idiot government haven't thought this through at all ( and that, OP, is why your LL is putting up the rent NOW)

Putting it aside has a lot of advantages over paying it. As if the tribunal decides a rent increase less than the asked for increase, the tenant doesn't have to then recover the money from the landlord. 

For the other discussion in the paragraph: I pass because I'm trying to avoid debating house prices and the economy. 

I don't think there's an actual suggestion it would be better to pay if they didn't have to pending a decision. Just that a lot of the disadvantages of paying the new rent remain for someone who can't afford the new rent. The biggest disadvantage is that money isn't available for other bills, so if that means that credit reports are affected or food is a struggle etc then that's a problem. OP would have to move out to somewhere more affordable. 

Yes we haven’t been paying council tax or utilities for a while now. Credit cards all maxed out we will have to default on loans too.

speaking to debt charities the only consultation is there are so many in the same boat now