Automatic v Manual?

WellKnownSid

Silvertabby said:

Our car seller chappie said that he was having a really busy week, with he alone finalising the sales of 9 new cars.  Out of curiosity, I asked him how many of those were EV.  Just 1 - and that was sold as a company car to a chap who had been told he could only have an EV  

I went into our VW dealer this week to look at the ID7 Tourer and ID Buzz - they couldn't have been more disinterested.  It makes sense - to the spotty herbert who's selling the car - who probably drives around in a Peugeot 207 - the entire concept of using / running / owning an electric vehicle is just completely alien technology.

For your chap who was told 'he could only have an EV' - he probably had a choice, but the reality is:

A £30k 1 litre T-cross will cost me £375 in company car tax a month
A £60k ID Buzz will cost me £94 in company car tax a month
A £60k ID7 Tourer 4motion GTX ill cost me £95 in company car tax a month

As a company car the two EVs work out £100 a month cheaper once you also add in the cost of petrol.

Arunmor

It's always so heartwarming to see the government subsidising company EVs to bribe companies into buying them

WellKnownSid

Arunmor said:

It's always so heartwarming to see the government subsidising company EVs to bribe companies into buying them

Like that never, ever happened with petrol and diesel

motorguy

WellKnownSid said:

Arunmor said:

It's always so heartwarming to see the government subsidising company EVs to bribe companies into buying them

Like that never, ever happened with petrol and diesel

Indeed.  We were all incentivised to buy diesels, but some people seem to forget that.

Inforapennyinforapound

motorguy said:

WellKnownSid said:

Arunmor said:

It's always so heartwarming to see the government subsidising company EVs to bribe companies into buying them

Like that never, ever happened with petrol and diesel

Indeed.  We were all incentivised to buy diesels, but some people seem to forget that.

Bang on! I remember that so well,but didn’t trust the eejits promoting them!…can’t recall the incentives right now though..cheaper road tax?

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Inforapennyinforapound said:

motorguy said:

WellKnownSid said:

Arunmor said:

It's always so heartwarming to see the government subsidising company EVs to bribe companies into buying them

Like that never, ever happened with petrol and diesel

Indeed.  We were all incentivised to buy diesels, but some people seem to forget that.

Bang on! I remember that so well,but didn’t trust the eejits promoting them!…can’t recall the incentives right now though..cheaper road tax?

Originally it was simply that diesel was cheaper than petrol.

I bought a new diesel in 1993 and enjoyed cheap fuel prices for a while, then "They" (Conservatives) suddenly decided that diesels belched out smoke that was carcinogenic rather than dropped out little flowers and butterflies  and used it as an excuse to increase diesel prices.

I still won though, as even with the higher prices it was still cheaper to run than the equivalent petrol model.

Then when VED went emissions related in 2001 "They" (Labour) made no distinction for deadly carcinogenic diesels (pick your own political reason why they didn't punish them, by 2000 everybody knew that diesels were much worse than a catalyst equipped petrol engine), and as they have lower fuel consumption than the equivalent petrol engines they got into very favourable groups- some even scraped into the zero-VED band (which must have been a shock as it was set as an unattainable target- good job with the emissions fiddles to pass the tests ) Subsequently This golden time has been refereed to (by the BBC) as "The Dash For Diesel".