Ebay gone to far with new policy change from 4th Feb 2025!

soolin

RFW said:

bittyboy101 said:

Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

Etsy seems to have a decent market in antique stuff. It's hard to gauge what sells there and it isn't my area at all so not sure how useful it is.

I have sold on Etsy but stuff is slow to sell, but does achieve fairly good prices when it does, the fees though can be a bit high. 

Vintage is almost dead now, the youngsters don’t want ‘stuff’ anymore, I look at my own grown up children, they buy easily replaceable dinner sets from places like ikea, pick up souvenir mugs from places that mean something to them, have a single vase from Ikea and nothing else. Fruit lives in the fridge , not in a fruit bowl, they think figurines and Nick nacks are hilariously  dated , and don’t even get me started on proper tea sets. I know in my storage I still have Wade ornaments, Wedgwood Jasper ware, Royal Doulton, lladro, NAO, Aynsley  , boxed cutlery sets , linen table cloths etc none of it worth a bean. I’ve actually started lotting some things up for B and M auctions just to make a real start in clearing old stock, the returns are poor but I can’t see any of this achieving good prices again.

bittyboy101

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

RedImp_2 said:

LegoMonster said:

what i really don't understand is if eBay are doing something that is a little shady legally. 

So if I send something out with a 2nd Class Large stamp, which is exactly as I have done for the last god knows how many years. EBay then withhold me receiving payment for a considerable amount of days, even if I get great feedback from the buyer. EBay also charge a fee for buyer protection. So my payment is either withheld until they’re satisfied that everything is ok or if there is a problem they give the buyer their money back and I as the seller get nothing. If that’s the case what’s the protection fee for? Sounds like double dipping on risk to me. 

If you get positive feedback that triggers payment 

No, It is only delivery confirmation via eBay's tracking system that triggers payment.

And for collection only items, payment is only triggered once a buyer either confirms delivery by clicking the "confirm delivery" tab in their eBay or if the seller enters a six digit code that they *MUST* get from their buyer *BEFORE* releasing the sold item to them otherwise it is a LONG 14 to 30 days wait for auto payment via eBay if the buyer remains quiet and does not open any cases.

Horrible system now and the main reason why I now have totally given up on selling on eBay after 18 great years and 720+ sales as a long term private seller since joining eBay since 2004 with over 6,600 positive feedback and no negatives or neutrals for all that time.  Makes me so sad now how they have RUINED everything for every private seller with such destructive and uncalled for changes which will affect eBay in the long run as more and more private sellers leave eBay who were also BUYERS.    

As You're not using ebay you may find yourself a little out of date. Feedback triggers the release of funds on Single-quantity, single-item orders priced £25 or less. There are a few other tweaks and clarifications as well, and now that SD is in force I am finding my funds released very quickly, well within a week in most cases (not on my LLs as I don't use SD for them)

Getting paid for items you've sold | eBay

I'm glad you popped back in as I was hoping you would update us on your ebid journey, I know we could check but it would be good to hear how you are finding it. I've seen quite a lot of other people mention ebid, but many of whom have returned to ebay feeling they wasted their money on membership and warning others about not being too hasty in paying for anything much up front. This board shouldn't just be about ebay, although they are of course the main player, and it's good to see people's experience of other sites like ebid or Vinted.

Ebid's been very quiet lately with only 2 sales this month.

Vinted is booming though - I buy stuff off there and I'm seeing stuff like Adidas tops & hoodies selling like hot cakes after just a couple of hours of being listed...

I wish those guys at Vinted would broaden their Horizons and give more  scope other than just clothes and electrical's - Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

I have to agree with you here, I have hopes that Vinted will allow more categories going forward and also allow proper business selling rather than the half hearted pro seller scheme they run at the moment. For that though they would need to comply with Uk regs about returns , rather than the shoddy system they have at the moment that says if a buyer gets something damaged or incorrect then buyer pays to return.

Considering what I am allowed to sell on Vinted privately, I am doing very very well there. On a private comparison, ignoring my business sales, I think I do as well on Vinted as on eBay despite being very limited what I can sell. I’m surprised though that you like Vinted with the long wait for money that is longer in many cases than eBay.  

However having said that, my private eBay sales have been extremely good for the past few weeks, all my buyers though are opting to use Evri for parcels, I’ve only had one use RM, so I think the price reduction in postage has really helped. I am actively looking for things to sell from my storage areas , including some larger collections of Nick nacks that I’ve had in boxes that I realise have been packed away for over 20 years so I can hardly argue they are treasures I needed to keep . I can barely list them fast enough. 

As for ebid, usually when it is discussed on here I give it another go for a while, but whilst my sales on eBay and Vinted are so strong I haven’t had a chance. The many negative comments I’m seeing about ebid on various forums, and even on their own chat board sales suggests that little has changed. Perhaps when things slow up a bit I may list some of my business stock there and see if I get any sales at all. 

Incidentally out of interest for others reading this, did you take out any form of ebid membership or are you using the PAYG model? 

Yes, As you know I am not a fan of slow payment, Why would I be when I was so used to PayPal's instant payments ! 

The attitude of Vinted is if you buy it and don't like it or it's not right, then sell it on via Vinted !

Sometimes returns are costly, time consuming and scammers abuse them for their own gain...

On eBay, even as a private seller with no returns accepted, eBay now still forces returns by saying "unless not as described" - Anyone can lie and say it's not as described and force a refund when that wasn't 100% true and they are simply abusing the returns policy to buy an expensive item like a Smart Phone and  then claim not as described and return back a bar of chocolate !! - completely scamming an honest seller who did everything right, but eBay left an open loophole for scammers to take advantage.

Back to eBid, I think eBid lacks visibility and fame - I think the more and more private sellers that flea eBay and migrate to eBid, the better sales will be on that site, as these sellers are also buyers and most are curious to see what other people on there are selling and if they see something they want, they may be tempted to buy it !...

I really don't like the attitude of eBay lately and their simple delivery is the last straw as I will NEVER post anything by EVRi - Their service is 90% slow and unreliable.

If I can't use Royal Mail Special Delivery or other reliable  couriers like DPD and Parcel Force then I'll forget selling on eBay altogether !     
     

Apart from excluded items, which eBay have yet to fully clarify , the only options under SD are RM48 or Evri, unless buyer (not seller) chooses an enhanced service, although that process  isn’t entirely explained by eBay either. However, eBay have said they take all the risks and sellers are not liable for late deliveries or damage- so I’m not that bothered. I’ve always wrapped and packed well anyway, nothing changed for me.

As for ebid, it doesn’t appear their model is to make money by hosting listings , their money is made via selling memberships. They have been  in the UK longer than ebayUK and are making very little inroad.  Frankly Vinted looks a lot more promising especially if, as above, they would set up properly to allow business sales. At least Vinted are making serious inroads into the market 

Yes, eBay claiming they will take full responsibility for postage etc WHILST THE ITEM IS IN TRANSIT TO BUYER... but what happens if the item arrives to the buyer damaged or missing ?... will eBay still take full responsibility ??... nope... I thought not !.... buyer will just open a case for "item not as described" or a return's case and eBay will just issue a prepaid return's label (billed to the seller of course) and tell them to send it back to the seller for them (eBay) to issue a refund... seller just get their good item back DAMAGED + bad feedback (in some cases) and eBay then returns the buyer their money back and washes their hands of any responsibility their end !

At least with Royal Mail Special Delivery you have insurance  to cover you up to £750 with the option to pay extra for cover up to £2,500 should you need it ! 

Under Managed Delivery/Simple Delivery eBay now give sellers no protection and with only Royal Mail tracked 48 as an option £30 max compensation if the item gets lost or damaged...

or EVRI who are somewhat unreliable most of the time.... so you really have nothing now in the way of protection as a seller as EVRi simply don't pay and just fob you off with a smile.

Lots of people know this, that's why they are all leaving eBay because of their new Simple Delivery rule which is now compulsory since 15th April 2025. 
 

bittyboy101

RFW said:

bittyboy101 said:

Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

Etsy seems to have a decent market in antique stuff. It's hard to gauge what sells there and it isn't my area at all so not sure how useful it is.

It's not just antique stuff but tools and DIY stuff would also sell well on Vinted amongst other stuff.

Like eBay, the owners of Vinted have also worked hard on advertising and attracting traffic to their site... unfortunately this is something the guys who own eBid have neglected to do which could have been a game changer for them... 

soolin

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

RedImp_2 said:

LegoMonster said:

what i really don't understand is if eBay are doing something that is a little shady legally. 

So if I send something out with a 2nd Class Large stamp, which is exactly as I have done for the last god knows how many years. EBay then withhold me receiving payment for a considerable amount of days, even if I get great feedback from the buyer. EBay also charge a fee for buyer protection. So my payment is either withheld until they’re satisfied that everything is ok or if there is a problem they give the buyer their money back and I as the seller get nothing. If that’s the case what’s the protection fee for? Sounds like double dipping on risk to me. 

If you get positive feedback that triggers payment 

No, It is only delivery confirmation via eBay's tracking system that triggers payment.

And for collection only items, payment is only triggered once a buyer either confirms delivery by clicking the "confirm delivery" tab in their eBay or if the seller enters a six digit code that they *MUST* get from their buyer *BEFORE* releasing the sold item to them otherwise it is a LONG 14 to 30 days wait for auto payment via eBay if the buyer remains quiet and does not open any cases.

Horrible system now and the main reason why I now have totally given up on selling on eBay after 18 great years and 720+ sales as a long term private seller since joining eBay since 2004 with over 6,600 positive feedback and no negatives or neutrals for all that time.  Makes me so sad now how they have RUINED everything for every private seller with such destructive and uncalled for changes which will affect eBay in the long run as more and more private sellers leave eBay who were also BUYERS.    

As You're not using ebay you may find yourself a little out of date. Feedback triggers the release of funds on Single-quantity, single-item orders priced £25 or less. There are a few other tweaks and clarifications as well, and now that SD is in force I am finding my funds released very quickly, well within a week in most cases (not on my LLs as I don't use SD for them)

Getting paid for items you've sold | eBay

I'm glad you popped back in as I was hoping you would update us on your ebid journey, I know we could check but it would be good to hear how you are finding it. I've seen quite a lot of other people mention ebid, but many of whom have returned to ebay feeling they wasted their money on membership and warning others about not being too hasty in paying for anything much up front. This board shouldn't just be about ebay, although they are of course the main player, and it's good to see people's experience of other sites like ebid or Vinted.

Ebid's been very quiet lately with only 2 sales this month.

Vinted is booming though - I buy stuff off there and I'm seeing stuff like Adidas tops & hoodies selling like hot cakes after just a couple of hours of being listed...

I wish those guys at Vinted would broaden their Horizons and give more  scope other than just clothes and electrical's - Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

I have to agree with you here, I have hopes that Vinted will allow more categories going forward and also allow proper business selling rather than the half hearted pro seller scheme they run at the moment. For that though they would need to comply with Uk regs about returns , rather than the shoddy system they have at the moment that says if a buyer gets something damaged or incorrect then buyer pays to return.

Considering what I am allowed to sell on Vinted privately, I am doing very very well there. On a private comparison, ignoring my business sales, I think I do as well on Vinted as on eBay despite being very limited what I can sell. I’m surprised though that you like Vinted with the long wait for money that is longer in many cases than eBay.  

However having said that, my private eBay sales have been extremely good for the past few weeks, all my buyers though are opting to use Evri for parcels, I’ve only had one use RM, so I think the price reduction in postage has really helped. I am actively looking for things to sell from my storage areas , including some larger collections of Nick nacks that I’ve had in boxes that I realise have been packed away for over 20 years so I can hardly argue they are treasures I needed to keep . I can barely list them fast enough. 

As for ebid, usually when it is discussed on here I give it another go for a while, but whilst my sales on eBay and Vinted are so strong I haven’t had a chance. The many negative comments I’m seeing about ebid on various forums, and even on their own chat board sales suggests that little has changed. Perhaps when things slow up a bit I may list some of my business stock there and see if I get any sales at all. 

Incidentally out of interest for others reading this, did you take out any form of ebid membership or are you using the PAYG model? 

Yes, As you know I am not a fan of slow payment, Why would I be when I was so used to PayPal's instant payments ! 

The attitude of Vinted is if you buy it and don't like it or it's not right, then sell it on via Vinted !

Sometimes returns are costly, time consuming and scammers abuse them for their own gain...

On eBay, even as a private seller with no returns accepted, eBay now still forces returns by saying "unless not as described" - Anyone can lie and say it's not as described and force a refund when that wasn't 100% true and they are simply abusing the returns policy to buy an expensive item like a Smart Phone and  then claim not as described and return back a bar of chocolate !! - completely scamming an honest seller who did everything right, but eBay left an open loophole for scammers to take advantage.

Back to eBid, I think eBid lacks visibility and fame - I think the more and more private sellers that flea eBay and migrate to eBid, the better sales will be on that site, as these sellers are also buyers and most are curious to see what other people on there are selling and if they see something they want, they may be tempted to buy it !...

I really don't like the attitude of eBay lately and their simple delivery is the last straw as I will NEVER post anything by EVRi - Their service is 90% slow and unreliable.

If I can't use Royal Mail Special Delivery or other reliable  couriers like DPD and Parcel Force then I'll forget selling on eBay altogether !     
     

Apart from excluded items, which eBay have yet to fully clarify , the only options under SD are RM48 or Evri, unless buyer (not seller) chooses an enhanced service, although that process  isn’t entirely explained by eBay either. However, eBay have said they take all the risks and sellers are not liable for late deliveries or damage- so I’m not that bothered. I’ve always wrapped and packed well anyway, nothing changed for me.

As for ebid, it doesn’t appear their model is to make money by hosting listings , their money is made via selling memberships. They have been  in the UK longer than ebayUK and are making very little inroad.  Frankly Vinted looks a lot more promising especially if, as above, they would set up properly to allow business sales. At least Vinted are making serious inroads into the market 

Yes, eBay claiming they will take full responsibility for postage etc but what happens if the item arrives damaged or missing ?... will eBay still take full responsibility ??... nope... I thought not.... buyer will just open a case for item not as described or a return's case and eBay will just issue a prepaid returns label (billed to the seller of course) and tell them to send it back for them to issue a refund... seller just get their good item back DAMAGED + bad feedback and eBay then returns the buyer their money back and washes their hands off any responsibility their end !

At least with Royal Mail Special Delivery you have insurance  to cover you up to £750 with the option to pay extra for cover up to £2,500 should you need it ! 

eBay give sellers no protection and with only Royal Mail tracked 48 as an option £30 max compensation if the item gets lost or damaged.

EVRi simply don't pay and just fob you off ! with a smile.

Lots of people know this, that's why they are all leaving eBay because of their new Simple Delivery rule which is now compulsory since 15th April 2025. 
 

Again it is worth looking at the ebay T and Cs as if something does go wrong, that's what you need to quote at them.

As I always say it is worth actually reading what ebay say - rather than rely on people's misinformation and belief, who also haven't read anything.

Simple Delivery | eBay

There are several benefits to using Simple Delivery, including:

• You'll be protected if the item is lost or damaged from the point the item is scanned into the carrier's delivery network and until it's marked as delivered

If the item is posted with the prepaid label provided and scanned by the carrier within your stated handling time, you can also benefit from the following:

• Your seller performance standards and service metrics won't be affected by late deliveries

I agree that a few people have stated they were leaving ebay, although looking at those who are traceable (on the community boards, or some other private forums where people show a user name) many have returned on the basis that it's better to get something for their unwanted items, rather than nothing. That leads me back to my interest in how people are managing on other sites, and for recommendations. If all these people are have left, where have they gone, or are they just now charity shopping their items? If other sites are being used then I'd like recommendations , I'll probably stick with ebay my sales are very strong  at the moment, but it neveer hurts to look elsewhere. 

soolin

bittyboy101 said:

RFW said:

bittyboy101 said:

Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

Etsy seems to have a decent market in antique stuff. It's hard to gauge what sells there and it isn't my area at all so not sure how useful it is.

It's not just antique stuff but tools and DIY stuff would also sell well on Vinted amongst other stuff.

Like eBay, the owners of Vinted have also worked hard on advertising and attracting traffic to their site... unfortunately this is something the guys who own eBid have neglected to do which could have been a game changer for them... 

I'd vote for craft categories, the amount of hobbies I have taken up over the year, and given up after spending loads on stuff is amazing. i'd love to be able to list those on Vinted.

bittyboy101

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

RedImp_2 said:

LegoMonster said:

what i really don't understand is if eBay are doing something that is a little shady legally. 

So if I send something out with a 2nd Class Large stamp, which is exactly as I have done for the last god knows how many years. EBay then withhold me receiving payment for a considerable amount of days, even if I get great feedback from the buyer. EBay also charge a fee for buyer protection. So my payment is either withheld until they’re satisfied that everything is ok or if there is a problem they give the buyer their money back and I as the seller get nothing. If that’s the case what’s the protection fee for? Sounds like double dipping on risk to me. 

If you get positive feedback that triggers payment 

No, It is only delivery confirmation via eBay's tracking system that triggers payment.

And for collection only items, payment is only triggered once a buyer either confirms delivery by clicking the "confirm delivery" tab in their eBay or if the seller enters a six digit code that they *MUST* get from their buyer *BEFORE* releasing the sold item to them otherwise it is a LONG 14 to 30 days wait for auto payment via eBay if the buyer remains quiet and does not open any cases.

Horrible system now and the main reason why I now have totally given up on selling on eBay after 18 great years and 720+ sales as a long term private seller since joining eBay since 2004 with over 6,600 positive feedback and no negatives or neutrals for all that time.  Makes me so sad now how they have RUINED everything for every private seller with such destructive and uncalled for changes which will affect eBay in the long run as more and more private sellers leave eBay who were also BUYERS.    

As You're not using ebay you may find yourself a little out of date. Feedback triggers the release of funds on Single-quantity, single-item orders priced £25 or less. There are a few other tweaks and clarifications as well, and now that SD is in force I am finding my funds released very quickly, well within a week in most cases (not on my LLs as I don't use SD for them)

Getting paid for items you've sold | eBay

I'm glad you popped back in as I was hoping you would update us on your ebid journey, I know we could check but it would be good to hear how you are finding it. I've seen quite a lot of other people mention ebid, but many of whom have returned to ebay feeling they wasted their money on membership and warning others about not being too hasty in paying for anything much up front. This board shouldn't just be about ebay, although they are of course the main player, and it's good to see people's experience of other sites like ebid or Vinted.

Ebid's been very quiet lately with only 2 sales this month.

Vinted is booming though - I buy stuff off there and I'm seeing stuff like Adidas tops & hoodies selling like hot cakes after just a couple of hours of being listed...

I wish those guys at Vinted would broaden their Horizons and give more  scope other than just clothes and electrical's - Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

I have to agree with you here, I have hopes that Vinted will allow more categories going forward and also allow proper business selling rather than the half hearted pro seller scheme they run at the moment. For that though they would need to comply with Uk regs about returns , rather than the shoddy system they have at the moment that says if a buyer gets something damaged or incorrect then buyer pays to return.

Considering what I am allowed to sell on Vinted privately, I am doing very very well there. On a private comparison, ignoring my business sales, I think I do as well on Vinted as on eBay despite being very limited what I can sell. I’m surprised though that you like Vinted with the long wait for money that is longer in many cases than eBay.  

However having said that, my private eBay sales have been extremely good for the past few weeks, all my buyers though are opting to use Evri for parcels, I’ve only had one use RM, so I think the price reduction in postage has really helped. I am actively looking for things to sell from my storage areas , including some larger collections of Nick nacks that I’ve had in boxes that I realise have been packed away for over 20 years so I can hardly argue they are treasures I needed to keep . I can barely list them fast enough. 

As for ebid, usually when it is discussed on here I give it another go for a while, but whilst my sales on eBay and Vinted are so strong I haven’t had a chance. The many negative comments I’m seeing about ebid on various forums, and even on their own chat board sales suggests that little has changed. Perhaps when things slow up a bit I may list some of my business stock there and see if I get any sales at all. 

Incidentally out of interest for others reading this, did you take out any form of ebid membership or are you using the PAYG model? 

Yes, As you know I am not a fan of slow payment, Why would I be when I was so used to PayPal's instant payments ! 

The attitude of Vinted is if you buy it and don't like it or it's not right, then sell it on via Vinted !

Sometimes returns are costly, time consuming and scammers abuse them for their own gain...

On eBay, even as a private seller with no returns accepted, eBay now still forces returns by saying "unless not as described" - Anyone can lie and say it's not as described and force a refund when that wasn't 100% true and they are simply abusing the returns policy to buy an expensive item like a Smart Phone and  then claim not as described and return back a bar of chocolate !! - completely scamming an honest seller who did everything right, but eBay left an open loophole for scammers to take advantage.

Back to eBid, I think eBid lacks visibility and fame - I think the more and more private sellers that flea eBay and migrate to eBid, the better sales will be on that site, as these sellers are also buyers and most are curious to see what other people on there are selling and if they see something they want, they may be tempted to buy it !...

I really don't like the attitude of eBay lately and their simple delivery is the last straw as I will NEVER post anything by EVRi - Their service is 90% slow and unreliable.

If I can't use Royal Mail Special Delivery or other reliable  couriers like DPD and Parcel Force then I'll forget selling on eBay altogether !     
     

Apart from excluded items, which eBay have yet to fully clarify , the only options under SD are RM48 or Evri, unless buyer (not seller) chooses an enhanced service, although that process  isn’t entirely explained by eBay either. However, eBay have said they take all the risks and sellers are not liable for late deliveries or damage- so I’m not that bothered. I’ve always wrapped and packed well anyway, nothing changed for me.

As for ebid, it doesn’t appear their model is to make money by hosting listings , their money is made via selling memberships. They have been  in the UK longer than ebayUK and are making very little inroad.  Frankly Vinted looks a lot more promising especially if, as above, they would set up properly to allow business sales. At least Vinted are making serious inroads into the market 

Yes, eBay claiming they will take full responsibility for postage etc but what happens if the item arrives damaged or missing ?... will eBay still take full responsibility ??... nope... I thought not.... buyer will just open a case for item not as described or a return's case and eBay will just issue a prepaid returns label (billed to the seller of course) and tell them to send it back for them to issue a refund... seller just get their good item back DAMAGED + bad feedback and eBay then returns the buyer their money back and washes their hands off any responsibility their end !

At least with Royal Mail Special Delivery you have insurance  to cover you up to £750 with the option to pay extra for cover up to £2,500 should you need it ! 

eBay give sellers no protection and with only Royal Mail tracked 48 as an option £30 max compensation if the item gets lost or damaged.

EVRi simply don't pay and just fob you off ! with a smile.

Lots of people know this, that's why they are all leaving eBay because of their new Simple Delivery rule which is now compulsory since 15th April 2025. 
 

Again it is worth looking at the ebay T and Cs as if something does go wrong, that's what you need to quote at them.

As I always say it is worth actually reading what ebay say - rather than rely on people's misinformation and belief, who also haven't read anything.

Simple Delivery | eBay

There are several benefits to using Simple Delivery, including:

• You'll be protected if the item is lost or damaged from the point the item is scanned into the carrier's delivery network and until it's marked as delivered

If the item is posted with the prepaid label provided and scanned by the carrier within your stated handling time, you can also benefit from the following:

• Your seller performance standards and service metrics won't be affected by late deliveries

I agree that a few people have stated they were leaving ebay, although looking at those who are traceable (on the community boards, or some other private forums where people show a user name) many have returned on the basis that it's better to get something for their unwanted items, rather than nothing. That leads me back to my interest in how people are managing on other sites, and for recommendations. If all these people are have left, where have they gone, or are they just now charity shopping their items? If other sites are being used then I'd like recommendations , I'll probably stick with ebay my sales are very strong  at the moment, but it neveer hurts to look elsewhere. 

eBay Simple Delivery = NO THANKS.

bittyboy101

RFW said:

bittyboy101 said:

Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

Etsy seems to have a decent market in antique stuff. It's hard to gauge what sells there and it isn't my area at all so not sure how useful it is.

I tried to join Etsy just after Christmas but found their passport online scanner very poor and I tried numerous times to get them to scan my passport by their online scanner via my computer's webcam (laptop with built in webcam) and I also tried using my smart phone to scan my my passport as they recommended  - all times, they rejected my application saying my passport number or signature was not visible (New UK passports now have the signature on a separate page to where my photo and passport number is), but their silly system is not compatible with the new style UK no EU  passports and their customer support say that they can't accept scans or photos of passports due to security reasons... so I got fed up and gave up on Etsy !

I noticed most of the stuff on Etsy is new or self-made and there are a lot of business sellers on there just like Amazon... so it probably wouldn't have been any good anyway to sell my stuff on there... 

soolin

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

soolin said:

bittyboy101 said:

RedImp_2 said:

LegoMonster said:

what i really don't understand is if eBay are doing something that is a little shady legally. 

So if I send something out with a 2nd Class Large stamp, which is exactly as I have done for the last god knows how many years. EBay then withhold me receiving payment for a considerable amount of days, even if I get great feedback from the buyer. EBay also charge a fee for buyer protection. So my payment is either withheld until they’re satisfied that everything is ok or if there is a problem they give the buyer their money back and I as the seller get nothing. If that’s the case what’s the protection fee for? Sounds like double dipping on risk to me. 

If you get positive feedback that triggers payment 

No, It is only delivery confirmation via eBay's tracking system that triggers payment.

And for collection only items, payment is only triggered once a buyer either confirms delivery by clicking the "confirm delivery" tab in their eBay or if the seller enters a six digit code that they *MUST* get from their buyer *BEFORE* releasing the sold item to them otherwise it is a LONG 14 to 30 days wait for auto payment via eBay if the buyer remains quiet and does not open any cases.

Horrible system now and the main reason why I now have totally given up on selling on eBay after 18 great years and 720+ sales as a long term private seller since joining eBay since 2004 with over 6,600 positive feedback and no negatives or neutrals for all that time.  Makes me so sad now how they have RUINED everything for every private seller with such destructive and uncalled for changes which will affect eBay in the long run as more and more private sellers leave eBay who were also BUYERS.    

As You're not using ebay you may find yourself a little out of date. Feedback triggers the release of funds on Single-quantity, single-item orders priced £25 or less. There are a few other tweaks and clarifications as well, and now that SD is in force I am finding my funds released very quickly, well within a week in most cases (not on my LLs as I don't use SD for them)

Getting paid for items you've sold | eBay

I'm glad you popped back in as I was hoping you would update us on your ebid journey, I know we could check but it would be good to hear how you are finding it. I've seen quite a lot of other people mention ebid, but many of whom have returned to ebay feeling they wasted their money on membership and warning others about not being too hasty in paying for anything much up front. This board shouldn't just be about ebay, although they are of course the main player, and it's good to see people's experience of other sites like ebid or Vinted.

Ebid's been very quiet lately with only 2 sales this month.

Vinted is booming though - I buy stuff off there and I'm seeing stuff like Adidas tops & hoodies selling like hot cakes after just a couple of hours of being listed...

I wish those guys at Vinted would broaden their Horizons and give more  scope other than just clothes and electrical's - Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

I have to agree with you here, I have hopes that Vinted will allow more categories going forward and also allow proper business selling rather than the half hearted pro seller scheme they run at the moment. For that though they would need to comply with Uk regs about returns , rather than the shoddy system they have at the moment that says if a buyer gets something damaged or incorrect then buyer pays to return.

Considering what I am allowed to sell on Vinted privately, I am doing very very well there. On a private comparison, ignoring my business sales, I think I do as well on Vinted as on eBay despite being very limited what I can sell. I’m surprised though that you like Vinted with the long wait for money that is longer in many cases than eBay.  

However having said that, my private eBay sales have been extremely good for the past few weeks, all my buyers though are opting to use Evri for parcels, I’ve only had one use RM, so I think the price reduction in postage has really helped. I am actively looking for things to sell from my storage areas , including some larger collections of Nick nacks that I’ve had in boxes that I realise have been packed away for over 20 years so I can hardly argue they are treasures I needed to keep . I can barely list them fast enough. 

As for ebid, usually when it is discussed on here I give it another go for a while, but whilst my sales on eBay and Vinted are so strong I haven’t had a chance. The many negative comments I’m seeing about ebid on various forums, and even on their own chat board sales suggests that little has changed. Perhaps when things slow up a bit I may list some of my business stock there and see if I get any sales at all. 

Incidentally out of interest for others reading this, did you take out any form of ebid membership or are you using the PAYG model? 

Yes, As you know I am not a fan of slow payment, Why would I be when I was so used to PayPal's instant payments ! 

The attitude of Vinted is if you buy it and don't like it or it's not right, then sell it on via Vinted !

Sometimes returns are costly, time consuming and scammers abuse them for their own gain...

On eBay, even as a private seller with no returns accepted, eBay now still forces returns by saying "unless not as described" - Anyone can lie and say it's not as described and force a refund when that wasn't 100% true and they are simply abusing the returns policy to buy an expensive item like a Smart Phone and  then claim not as described and return back a bar of chocolate !! - completely scamming an honest seller who did everything right, but eBay left an open loophole for scammers to take advantage.

Back to eBid, I think eBid lacks visibility and fame - I think the more and more private sellers that flea eBay and migrate to eBid, the better sales will be on that site, as these sellers are also buyers and most are curious to see what other people on there are selling and if they see something they want, they may be tempted to buy it !...

I really don't like the attitude of eBay lately and their simple delivery is the last straw as I will NEVER post anything by EVRi - Their service is 90% slow and unreliable.

If I can't use Royal Mail Special Delivery or other reliable  couriers like DPD and Parcel Force then I'll forget selling on eBay altogether !     
     

Apart from excluded items, which eBay have yet to fully clarify , the only options under SD are RM48 or Evri, unless buyer (not seller) chooses an enhanced service, although that process  isn’t entirely explained by eBay either. However, eBay have said they take all the risks and sellers are not liable for late deliveries or damage- so I’m not that bothered. I’ve always wrapped and packed well anyway, nothing changed for me.

As for ebid, it doesn’t appear their model is to make money by hosting listings , their money is made via selling memberships. They have been  in the UK longer than ebayUK and are making very little inroad.  Frankly Vinted looks a lot more promising especially if, as above, they would set up properly to allow business sales. At least Vinted are making serious inroads into the market 

Yes, eBay claiming they will take full responsibility for postage etc but what happens if the item arrives damaged or missing ?... will eBay still take full responsibility ??... nope... I thought not.... buyer will just open a case for item not as described or a return's case and eBay will just issue a prepaid returns label (billed to the seller of course) and tell them to send it back for them to issue a refund... seller just get their good item back DAMAGED + bad feedback and eBay then returns the buyer their money back and washes their hands off any responsibility their end !

At least with Royal Mail Special Delivery you have insurance  to cover you up to £750 with the option to pay extra for cover up to £2,500 should you need it ! 

eBay give sellers no protection and with only Royal Mail tracked 48 as an option £30 max compensation if the item gets lost or damaged.

EVRi simply don't pay and just fob you off ! with a smile.

Lots of people know this, that's why they are all leaving eBay because of their new Simple Delivery rule which is now compulsory since 15th April 2025. 
 

Again it is worth looking at the ebay T and Cs as if something does go wrong, that's what you need to quote at them.

As I always say it is worth actually reading what ebay say - rather than rely on people's misinformation and belief, who also haven't read anything.

Simple Delivery | eBay

There are several benefits to using Simple Delivery, including:

• You'll be protected if the item is lost or damaged from the point the item is scanned into the carrier's delivery network and until it's marked as delivered

If the item is posted with the prepaid label provided and scanned by the carrier within your stated handling time, you can also benefit from the following:

• Your seller performance standards and service metrics won't be affected by late deliveries

I agree that a few people have stated they were leaving ebay, although looking at those who are traceable (on the community boards, or some other private forums where people show a user name) many have returned on the basis that it's better to get something for their unwanted items, rather than nothing. That leads me back to my interest in how people are managing on other sites, and for recommendations. If all these people are have left, where have they gone, or are they just now charity shopping their items? If other sites are being used then I'd like recommendations , I'll probably stick with ebay my sales are very strong  at the moment, but it neveer hurts to look elsewhere. 

eBay Simple Delivery = NO THANKS.

How do you manage with Vinted then since SD seems to be a copy of the Vinted system, albeit it with more couriers added .

RFW

bittyboy101 said:

I noticed most of the stuff on Etsy is new or self-made and there are a lot of business sellers on there just like Amazon... so it probably wouldn't have been any good anyway to sell my stuff on there... 

I sell on there as a business, with new stuff. I was looking at some vintage items and noticed their seemed to be some market for certain things. It's an odd marketplace but quite nice when you get into it.

I didn't have a problem signing up. I went through some situation a few weeks in where my account was suspended after ignoring an Etsy message, confusing it with spam (of which you get a lot in the first couple of weeks of a new account), I had to upload some extra ID and it was sorted, not had an issue since.
If I could get the sale levels up I'd happily just sell on Etsy. The customers tend to be nice, fees are comparable to elsewhere and payment can be daily throughout the week.

bittyboy101

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what i really don't understand is if eBay are doing something that is a little shady legally. 

So if I send something out with a 2nd Class Large stamp, which is exactly as I have done for the last god knows how many years. EBay then withhold me receiving payment for a considerable amount of days, even if I get great feedback from the buyer. EBay also charge a fee for buyer protection. So my payment is either withheld until they’re satisfied that everything is ok or if there is a problem they give the buyer their money back and I as the seller get nothing. If that’s the case what’s the protection fee for? Sounds like double dipping on risk to me. 

If you get positive feedback that triggers payment 

No, It is only delivery confirmation via eBay's tracking system that triggers payment.

And for collection only items, payment is only triggered once a buyer either confirms delivery by clicking the "confirm delivery" tab in their eBay or if the seller enters a six digit code that they *MUST* get from their buyer *BEFORE* releasing the sold item to them otherwise it is a LONG 14 to 30 days wait for auto payment via eBay if the buyer remains quiet and does not open any cases.

Horrible system now and the main reason why I now have totally given up on selling on eBay after 18 great years and 720+ sales as a long term private seller since joining eBay since 2004 with over 6,600 positive feedback and no negatives or neutrals for all that time.  Makes me so sad now how they have RUINED everything for every private seller with such destructive and uncalled for changes which will affect eBay in the long run as more and more private sellers leave eBay who were also BUYERS.    

As You're not using ebay you may find yourself a little out of date. Feedback triggers the release of funds on Single-quantity, single-item orders priced £25 or less. There are a few other tweaks and clarifications as well, and now that SD is in force I am finding my funds released very quickly, well within a week in most cases (not on my LLs as I don't use SD for them)

Getting paid for items you've sold | eBay

I'm glad you popped back in as I was hoping you would update us on your ebid journey, I know we could check but it would be good to hear how you are finding it. I've seen quite a lot of other people mention ebid, but many of whom have returned to ebay feeling they wasted their money on membership and warning others about not being too hasty in paying for anything much up front. This board shouldn't just be about ebay, although they are of course the main player, and it's good to see people's experience of other sites like ebid or Vinted.

Ebid's been very quiet lately with only 2 sales this month.

Vinted is booming though - I buy stuff off there and I'm seeing stuff like Adidas tops & hoodies selling like hot cakes after just a couple of hours of being listed...

I wish those guys at Vinted would broaden their Horizons and give more  scope other than just clothes and electrical's - Vintage antique stuff would fly off Vinted and leave eBay for dead if Vinted extended their categories to allow more articles to be sold on there...        

I have to agree with you here, I have hopes that Vinted will allow more categories going forward and also allow proper business selling rather than the half hearted pro seller scheme they run at the moment. For that though they would need to comply with Uk regs about returns , rather than the shoddy system they have at the moment that says if a buyer gets something damaged or incorrect then buyer pays to return.

Considering what I am allowed to sell on Vinted privately, I am doing very very well there. On a private comparison, ignoring my business sales, I think I do as well on Vinted as on eBay despite being very limited what I can sell. I’m surprised though that you like Vinted with the long wait for money that is longer in many cases than eBay.  

However having said that, my private eBay sales have been extremely good for the past few weeks, all my buyers though are opting to use Evri for parcels, I’ve only had one use RM, so I think the price reduction in postage has really helped. I am actively looking for things to sell from my storage areas , including some larger collections of Nick nacks that I’ve had in boxes that I realise have been packed away for over 20 years so I can hardly argue they are treasures I needed to keep . I can barely list them fast enough. 

As for ebid, usually when it is discussed on here I give it another go for a while, but whilst my sales on eBay and Vinted are so strong I haven’t had a chance. The many negative comments I’m seeing about ebid on various forums, and even on their own chat board sales suggests that little has changed. Perhaps when things slow up a bit I may list some of my business stock there and see if I get any sales at all. 

Incidentally out of interest for others reading this, did you take out any form of ebid membership or are you using the PAYG model? 

Yes, As you know I am not a fan of slow payment, Why would I be when I was so used to PayPal's instant payments ! 

The attitude of Vinted is if you buy it and don't like it or it's not right, then sell it on via Vinted !

Sometimes returns are costly, time consuming and scammers abuse them for their own gain...

On eBay, even as a private seller with no returns accepted, eBay now still forces returns by saying "unless not as described" - Anyone can lie and say it's not as described and force a refund when that wasn't 100% true and they are simply abusing the returns policy to buy an expensive item like a Smart Phone and  then claim not as described and return back a bar of chocolate !! - completely scamming an honest seller who did everything right, but eBay left an open loophole for scammers to take advantage.

Back to eBid, I think eBid lacks visibility and fame - I think the more and more private sellers that flea eBay and migrate to eBid, the better sales will be on that site, as these sellers are also buyers and most are curious to see what other people on there are selling and if they see something they want, they may be tempted to buy it !...

I really don't like the attitude of eBay lately and their simple delivery is the last straw as I will NEVER post anything by EVRi - Their service is 90% slow and unreliable.

If I can't use Royal Mail Special Delivery or other reliable  couriers like DPD and Parcel Force then I'll forget selling on eBay altogether !     
     

Apart from excluded items, which eBay have yet to fully clarify , the only options under SD are RM48 or Evri, unless buyer (not seller) chooses an enhanced service, although that process  isn’t entirely explained by eBay either. However, eBay have said they take all the risks and sellers are not liable for late deliveries or damage- so I’m not that bothered. I’ve always wrapped and packed well anyway, nothing changed for me.

As for ebid, it doesn’t appear their model is to make money by hosting listings , their money is made via selling memberships. They have been  in the UK longer than ebayUK and are making very little inroad.  Frankly Vinted looks a lot more promising especially if, as above, they would set up properly to allow business sales. At least Vinted are making serious inroads into the market 

Yes, eBay claiming they will take full responsibility for postage etc but what happens if the item arrives damaged or missing ?... will eBay still take full responsibility ??... nope... I thought not.... buyer will just open a case for item not as described or a return's case and eBay will just issue a prepaid returns label (billed to the seller of course) and tell them to send it back for them to issue a refund... seller just get their good item back DAMAGED + bad feedback and eBay then returns the buyer their money back and washes their hands off any responsibility their end !

At least with Royal Mail Special Delivery you have insurance  to cover you up to £750 with the option to pay extra for cover up to £2,500 should you need it ! 

eBay give sellers no protection and with only Royal Mail tracked 48 as an option £30 max compensation if the item gets lost or damaged.

EVRi simply don't pay and just fob you off ! with a smile.

Lots of people know this, that's why they are all leaving eBay because of their new Simple Delivery rule which is now compulsory since 15th April 2025. 
 

Again it is worth looking at the ebay T and Cs as if something does go wrong, that's what you need to quote at them.

As I always say it is worth actually reading what ebay say - rather than rely on people's misinformation and belief, who also haven't read anything.

Simple Delivery | eBay

There are several benefits to using Simple Delivery, including:

• You'll be protected if the item is lost or damaged from the point the item is scanned into the carrier's delivery network and until it's marked as delivered

If the item is posted with the prepaid label provided and scanned by the carrier within your stated handling time, you can also benefit from the following:

• Your seller performance standards and service metrics won't be affected by late deliveries

I agree that a few people have stated they were leaving ebay, although looking at those who are traceable (on the community boards, or some other private forums where people show a user name) many have returned on the basis that it's better to get something for their unwanted items, rather than nothing. That leads me back to my interest in how people are managing on other sites, and for recommendations. If all these people are have left, where have they gone, or are they just now charity shopping their items? If other sites are being used then I'd like recommendations , I'll probably stick with ebay my sales are very strong  at the moment, but it neveer hurts to look elsewhere. 

eBay Simple Delivery = NO THANKS.

How do you manage with Vinted then since SD seems to be a copy of the Vinted system, albeit it with more couriers added .

I only buy on there NOT sell anything.

They seem to favour Yodel and Evri as well as Royal Mail tracked 24/48 hr delivery.

Never had a problem receiving anything but I've had two sellers who failed to complete the orders, but I was auto-refunded without having to do anything as Vinted give sellers 1 week to send the order before their system will just auto-refund if it doesn't see a valid tracking number uploaded by the seller...