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Windows 11 Pro update problem

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  • Vitor
    Vitor Posts: 621 Forumite
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    edited 27 December 2024 at 10:37PM
    What happens if I just stay on 22H2? - 

    Your system becomes increasingly vulnerable to new security threats. NB it's not just unsupported Windows 11 you need to consider, Dell ended all support for the OptiPlex 3050 range in July 2023 so an upgrade is really overdue.
  • roytom2
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    Thanks for the replies
    The space currently left on the C drive is 785GB
    regards
  • Newcad
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    It was always a know issue with bypassing the MS hardware requirements to install Win 11 on an 'unsupported' machine.
    Whilst such a machine will still get the monthly Patch Tuesday Windows Updates it will not be capable of getting a 'Feature Update' ie. a Windows 11 Major Version update.
    That's because the Feature/Major Version updates check the hardware requirements again and see that the machines hardware is unsupported.
    The only way to do that Major Version update on an unsupported machine is to reinstall the new Win11 version from scratch - (If MS haven't closed off the bypass tweaks in the meantime).

    PS. That is something to be wary of at the moment if buying a second hand or 'refurbished' computer.
    Just because it can be seen running Win 11 doesn't mean that it has the supported hardware, it could be an older machine that had had Win 11 put on it using the bypass tweaks.
    Before purchasing a second hand machine with Win 11 installed I'd insist on seeing the MS 'PC Health Check' run on it to make sure that it is fully supported for Win 11.

  • roytom2
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    Thanks for the answers again.
    I could see what you’re saying must be entirely correct and I’m considerably concerned about what the future holds with my Dell Opitplex and windows 11 upgrades.
    Consistent with what has been said here I’ve now run into a rather alarming problem. I used the Microsoft Media Creation Tool yesterday and it created a USB boot drive to install Windows 11. This morning I tested it on an older computer and it refused to install Windows 11 because the hardware was not supported. It seems that it’s doing more checks now than it did before as the downloaded version of Windows 11 was way a bypassing the hardware checks.
    Therefore, if I end up wiping my Dell OptiPlex Desktop PC that won’t currently update I may find that the new copy I’ve downloaded refuses to install.
    If this happens about the only thing I can do is go back to Windows 10.
  • booneruk
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    I'd try googling specific W11 requirements bypassing techniques for the 24H2 edition. Such a google took me here, for example: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussions/windows11/possible-to-install-windows-11-24h2-on-unsupported-hardware/4358765

    You'll probably be able to get a fresh install of 24H2 from what I'm reading, but then you could run into future blockers upgrading from that major version.
  • Neil49
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    edited 28 December 2024 at 3:48PM
    I had this on our Lenovo laptop and solved it following the instructions in the following link. You have to have reached a certain point in Win 11 updates for this to work. 

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11-pro-10022621-build-22621-says-end-of/a03e8dbd-b7ff-42de-8de6-db1b3d97a13c

    Scroll to the bottom of the post for details of the solution and the link.

    Once I had run the script I went to windows updates and they started virtually straight away. 
  • Olinda99
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    edited 28 December 2024 at 4:48PM
    roytom2 said:
    Thanks for the answers again.
    I could see what you’re saying must be entirely correct and I’m considerably concerned about what the future holds with my Dell Opitplex and windows 11 upgrades.
    Consistent with what has been said here I’ve now run into a rather alarming problem. I used the Microsoft Media Creation Tool yesterday and it created a USB boot drive to install Windows 11. This morning I tested it on an older computer and it refused to install Windows 11 because the hardware was not supported. It seems that it’s doing more checks now than it did before as the downloaded version of Windows 11 was way a bypassing the hardware checks.
    Therefore, if I end up wiping my Dell OptiPlex Desktop PC that won’t currently update I may find that the new copy I’ve downloaded refuses to install.
    If this happens about the only thing I can do is go back to Windows 10.
    how did you create the bootable usb stick ?

    the way to do it is NOT from the microsoft site! The procedure is:

    1. download the W11 .iso from the microsoft site

    2. use rufus (google it) to point to this iso and make a bootable usb stick. It allows you to bypass W11 requirements
  • HillStreetBlues
    HillStreetBlues Posts: 6,042 Forumite
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    edited 28 December 2024 at 5:48PM
    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
    "BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
    "BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
    "BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup]
    "AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU"=dword:00000001



    Copy all the above into Notepad and save it. Rename the extension from .txt to .reg. Then run the reg file.  You should now be able to update.
    Just make sure you have file name extensions showing
    Let's Be Careful Out There
  • roytom2
    roytom2 Posts: 162 Forumite
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    Wow. Very many thanks for all the great replies and detailed help.
    I did indeed use the Microsoft Windows Media Creation Tool on this occasion to create the Windows 11 install USB Flash drive - whereas before I did the install by just downloading Windows 11 Pro ISO file and using Rufus to create the USB install flash drive.
    I'll try the excellent registry hack next.
    Regards
  • Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\LabConfig]
    "BypassRAMCheck"=dword:00000001
    "BypassSecureBootCheck"=dword:00000001
    "BypassTPMCheck"=dword:00000001

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup\MoSetup]
    "AllowUpgradesWithUnsupportedTPMOrCPU"=dword:00000001



    Copy all the above into Notepad and save it. Rename the extension from .txt to .reg. Then run the reg file.  You should now be able to update.
    Just make sure you have file name extensions showing
    Nigh on half a century I've been using Windows machines and still the words "Windows Registry Editor" give me the fear.
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