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  • Jenni_D
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    An interesting read - and I'm glad all worked out OK in the end.

    Given that your daughter took her passport along to the station as another form of ID, I presume she is now taking steps to get her licence card updated? After all, she doesn't now need the provisional photo ID licence card as ID. :) 

    (I'm assuming the passport is new within the past year, otherwise her claim of needing to retain the provisional photo ID card as ID seems a little disingenuous. It might have been more convenient, but it wasn't necessary if she already had a passport).
    Jenni x
  • Car_54
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    Jenni_D said:
    (I'm assuming the passport is new within the past year, otherwise her claim of needing to retain the provisional photo ID card as ID seems a little disingenuous. It might have been more convenient, but it wasn't necessary if she already had a passport).
    The daughter had done nothing wrong. She didn't - and doesn't - need to justify her (in)action, either to the police or to posters on here.
  • Jenni_D
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    There's doing nothing wrong/illegal - and there's blasé inaction that doesn't help oneself in the long run. Keeping a provisional photo ID licence for the purpose of having ID, if one already has photo ID in the form of a passport, seems self-defeating. 🤷‍♀️
    Jenni x
  • Car_54
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    Jenni_D said:
    There's doing nothing wrong/illegal - and there's blasé inaction that doesn't help oneself in the long run. Keeping a provisional photo ID licence for the purpose of having ID, if one already has photo ID in the form of a passport, seems self-defeating. 🤷‍♀️
    Taking your passport on a night out to pubs and clubs may not be the best idea, as my grandson would testify. Especially the week before you're due to go on holiday. Very expensive mistake.
  • Jenni_D
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    True - but I somewhat assumed that the OP's daughter needed the photo ID in respect of her job (visiting patients/other medical facilities) rather than for nights out. :) 
    Jenni x
  • True - but I somewhat assumed that the OP's daughter needed the photo ID in respect of her job (visiting patients/other medical facilities) rather than for nights out. :) 
    Actually, Jenni, it doesn't matter what she needed it for - or even if she needed it for nothing in particular at all. Even if this incident had happened the day after she had passed her test (when she clearly would not have had a full licence to produce in any circumstances)  the outcome would have been the same. In fact it may have been worse because she would not have had even her provisional licence if she had relinquished it to the examiner.

    But all that is by the way. The issue is that she produced her licence and pass certificate which gave her the entitlement to drive. That is all she was required to do. The police had no need to make any further enquiries unless they suspected one or other of those documents was forged, stolen or otherwise invalid. There was no indication that they had any such suspicion.

    It was obvious that when they interrogated the DVLA records they would find that she held only a provisional licence because that indeed is all she did hold. So I don't know why they bothered. I also don't know why they insisted she produced something they knew she didn't have or could obtain within seven days. One cannot produce what one does not have or can obtain readily.

    You may get the impression I feel very strongly about this. I do. Apart from being unlawful It was completely unnecessary, The police (the sergeant by the looks of it) demonstrated a spectacular ignorance of the law and a similar lack of plain common sense.


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