I already paid

fisherjim

Justhelpmeplease said:

” No VAT has been added as the sum owed is a legally owed debt.

 

Utter rubbish it was a speculative invoice it is no "legally owed" unless a judge says it is!

Justhelpmeplease

Coupon-mad said:

Justhelpmeplease said:

I emailed the LoC as advised and thought I’d pushed past the 6 yr deadline as the original correspondence has a date of 09/05/19.

However, I received the below response.  Am I to ignore this now as I’m under the impression the 6yrs is up or do I reply and point this out?

Dear [],

We write in response to your correspondence received in our office dated 14/04/2025.

We now respond to the same as follows.

In relation to the argument that the amount owed is a hugely exaggerated sum, the amount owed is no more than the original amount of the PC plus the recovery fee. The ‘Genuine pre-estimate of loss’ argument was often advanced in parking ticket claims prior to Parking Eye -v-Beavis [2015]. This issue was settled in that case. Furthermore, our Client is a member of the International Parking Community and pursuant to 7.2.1 “If the charge remains unpaid after 28 days, it may increase by up to a further £70 and could result in enforcement through the Courts with additional costs being awarded.”

No VAT has been added as the sum owed is a legally owed debt.

For clarity, the PC was issued due to breach of contract not for loss or damages. Your vehicle was observed on site in breach of the terms and conditions as per the signage; therefore, a PC was issued.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the outstanding balance of £170.00. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

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Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Kind Regards, 

Coupon-mad said:

When did that reply get emailed?

I emailed DCB legal on 12/04/25 and they sent their response on 14/05/25

Time's up. Laugh at them!

However:

- why are they still misleading you into thinking you should pay, when the 6 years is already up?

- why is no VAT being applied to DRA fees by this industry? 

- why still no VAT on PCNs despite the APCOA EU decision three years ago?

- HMRC are frankly mad to still rely on HMRC v VCS, which was about the rationale years 13 years ago, when clamping and 'trespass' was the argument in favour of VCS. That's not been the private PCN rationale since well before the Beavis case. The UK has missed out on VAT millions over the years in PCNs and on DRA fees. 

So can I just ignore them or do I need to reply?

Coupon-mad

Either ignore or laughingly reply "time's up".