I already paid

Justhelpmeplease

Seriously?  I copy and paste the response with the words “faff” and “what you lot dress up”?

kryten3000

Change those specific words if you like, but sending this response tells DCB Legal where you got it from (here). It also tells them you will not be fooled by their threats and you're not going to panic and pay or ignore completely, either of which they want you do do because the first gets them £170 and the second gets them a Default CCJ which they can then chase further.

DCB Legal's business model is to throw claims out like confetti and hope that the recipients won't defend them.  Only 11% of claims are defended so you can see just how lucrative this is for them.

Coupon-mad

Justhelpmeplease said:

Seriously?  I copy and paste the response with the words “faff” and “what you lot dress up”?

It's deliberate. They'll recognise it.

Do you really want to be polite to this rogue industry who ruin people's lives?

Justhelpmeplease

Ok folks, I emailed the LoC as advised and thought I’d pushed past the 6 yr deadline as the original correspondence has a date of 09/05/19.  However, I received the below response.  Al I to ignore this now as I’m under the impression the 6yrs is up or do I reply and point this out?

Dear [removed by Forum Team],

We write in response to your correspondence received in our office dated 14/04/2025.

We now respond to the same as follows.

In relation to the argument that the amount owed is a hugely exaggerated sum, the amount owed is no more than the original amount of the PC plus the recovery fee. The ‘Genuine pre-estimate of loss’ argument was often advanced in parking ticket claims prior to Parking Eye -v-Beavis [2015]. This issue was settled in that case. Furthermore, our Client is a member of the International Parking Community and pursuant to 7.2.1 “If the charge remains unpaid after 28 days, it may increase by up to a further £70 and could result in enforcement through the Courts with additional costs being awarded.” No VAT has been added as the sum owed is a legally owed debt.

For clarity, the PC was issued due to breach of contract not for loss or damages. Your vehicle was observed on site in breach of the terms and conditions as per the signage; therefore, a PC was issued.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the outstanding balance of £170.00. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

• Account Name: DCB Legal Ltd Client Account  
• Sort Code: 20-24-09  
• Account Number: 60964441

You must quote the correct case reference (121960.11751D) when making payment. If you do not, we may be unable to correctly allocate the payment. If further action is taken by us as a result of an incorrect reference being quoted, you will be liable for any further fees or costs incurred.

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

 

 

 

Kind Regards, 

 

[removed by Forum Team]

 

Car1980

Rather unusual for them to let it become statute barred. Maybe they just have too many 2019 G24 claims on the go.

I'd reply back with 

"I am in receipt of your email dated 15/05/25. 

Please confirm no court claim prior to 9/5/25 has been made regarding this matter, as it now statute barred under the Limitation Act 1980."

Just covers your back if they made a claim and the court or post messed up and you have to apply for a set aside. Unlikely. but for the sake of an email probably worth it.

Coupon-mad

When did that reply get emailed?

Justhelpmeplease

Coupon-mad said:

When did that reply get emailed?

I emailed DHB legal on 12/04/25 and they sent their response on 14/05/25

Coupon-mad

Justhelpmeplease said:

I emailed the LoC as advised and thought I’d pushed past the 6 yr deadline as the original correspondence has a date of 09/05/19.

However, I received the below response.  Am I to ignore this now as I’m under the impression the 6yrs is up or do I reply and point this out?

Dear [],

We write in response to your correspondence received in our office dated 14/04/2025.

We now respond to the same as follows.

In relation to the argument that the amount owed is a hugely exaggerated sum, the amount owed is no more than the original amount of the PC plus the recovery fee. The ‘Genuine pre-estimate of loss’ argument was often advanced in parking ticket claims prior to Parking Eye -v-Beavis [2015]. This issue was settled in that case. Furthermore, our Client is a member of the International Parking Community and pursuant to 7.2.1 “If the charge remains unpaid after 28 days, it may increase by up to a further £70 and could result in enforcement through the Courts with additional costs being awarded.”

No VAT has been added as the sum owed is a legally owed debt.

For clarity, the PC was issued due to breach of contract not for loss or damages. Your vehicle was observed on site in breach of the terms and conditions as per the signage; therefore, a PC was issued.

You now have 30 days from the date of this email to make payment of the outstanding balance of £170.00. Failure to make payment will result in a Claim being issued against you without any further reference.

Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account: -

• blah... snipped

Alternatively, you can contact DCB Legal Ltd on 0203 838 7038 to make payment over the telephone or online at https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/.

Kind Regards, 

Coupon-mad said:

When did that reply get emailed?

I emailed DCB legal on 12/04/25 and they sent their response on 14/05/25

Time's up. Laugh at them!

However:

- why are they still misleading you into thinking you should pay, when the 6 years is already up?

- why is no VAT being applied to DRA fees by this industry? 

- why still no VAT on PCNs despite the APCOA EU decision three years ago?

- HMRC are frankly mad to still rely on HMRC v VCS, which was about the rationale years 13 years ago, when clamping and 'trespass' was the argument in favour of VCS. That's not been the private PCN rationale since well before the Beavis case. The UK has missed out on VAT millions over the years in PCNs and on DRA fees. 

Justhelpmeplease

So shall I reply or laugh

Car1980

Like I say, you have no knowing yet if haven't made a claim, made a claim on 9th May or made a claim today, regardless of when they emailed you.

Imagine they made a claim on 9th May, the claim form never arrived and you received a default judgment. Replying would at least give you some evidence of them playing silly beggars.