No video output - but..........

Heedtheadvice

No didn't need a photo of the PC rear it just seems odd that the PC spec ( of the models of that era ) stated on board graphics but yours does not an output on the motherboard.

Hope your purchase gets you going.

MouldyOldDough

Heedtheadvice said:

No didn't need a photo of the PC rear it just seems odd that the PC spec ( of the models of that era ) stated on board graphics but yours does not an output on the motherboard.

Hope your purchase gets you going.

No video output with the new graphics card - nothing at all !!

I tried the TV as a monitor

Neil_Jones

I suspect we're looking at a board failure.

Take the memory out and switch it on (without the memory).  It should beep at you.  If it does the issue is caused by a faulty module (or controller, but more likely the module).  If it still doesn't beep take the graphics card out as well.

Typically three beeps for memory, eight for graphics.  You won't get both, you'll get one or the other depending on what gets initialised first.

If you get nothing, its almost certainly a dead board.  Processors can fail but more likely the board will go first.

booneruk

At this point I think I'd be thinking about replacing the whole unit with a second hand 5year old (or so) OEM system (like HP/Dell etc - old office machines) that can pop up on ebay etc at quite good prices. That way you'd get a windows11 ready machine for the next 10years or so

You should also be able to return the graphics card to Amazon

Do your own research, obviously, but Intel 8th gen and newer is windows 11 compatible. Here's a link to candidates on ebay I put together: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=+intel+i5&_sacat=171957&LH_BIN=1&Brand=Dell|HP&_dcat=171957&rt=nc&_udhi=190

MouldyOldDough

Neil_Jones said:

I suspect we're looking at a board failure.

Take the memory out and switch it on (without the memory).  It should beep at you.  If it does the issue is caused by a faulty module (or controller, but more likely the module).  If it still doesn't beep take the graphics card out as well.

Typically three beeps for memory, eight for graphics.  You won't get both, you'll get one or the other depending on what gets initialised first.

If you get nothing, its almost certainly a dead board.  Processors can fail but more likely the board will go first.

Yes it did beep at me, when I removed the memory - I didn't count the number of beeps but I would say that it was more than 3

This implies that the motherboard is OK ?

I have tried every combination of cable, SSD, graphics card, monitor/TV.....

It's so frustrating

debitcardmayhem

have you tried with a ps/2 keyboard in it ?
Edit… since it’s an old pc and it may not have usb keyboards in the bios… and that also point to a flat battery

MouldyOldDough

debitcardmayhem said:

have you tried with a ps/2 keyboard in it ?
Edit… since it’s an old pc and it may not have usb keyboards in the bios… and that also point to a flat battery

I have tried every combination of MONITOR, SSD, GRAPHICS CARD, CABLE, TV, MEMORY, (Using TV as monitor, Trying old graphics card etc)
All the cables are OK internally

It beeps correctly when the RAM is removed

The processor cooling fan spins and it makes the usual noises at boot up

I have replaced the BIOS battery and don't have a ps/2 keyboard - only a USB one

Surely - even if that was the case - I would see "something" on the screen at boot up - even an error message or something else

As it is - I see absolutely ziltch !!

mksysb

My best guess is that when reset the bios by removing the battery, it went back to defaults.  Probably defaulted to integrated graphics as supported by the chip, but not by the motherboard.  Not sure of the way out other than replacing the motherboard.

debitcardmayhem

I still think you need a ps/2 kb , https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=ps%2F2+to+usb&crid=5P4QQC9E7KB1&sprefix=ps%2F2%2Caps%2C205&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_4
I had an old pc with ps/2 and wouldn’t respond without one

MouldyOldDough

debitcardmayhem said:

I still think you need a ps/2 kb , https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=ps%2F2+to+usb&crid=5P4QQC9E7KB1&sprefix=ps%2F2%2Caps%2C205&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_1_4
I had an old pc with ps/2 and wouldn’t respond without one

I have done a software rebuild of this and many other PC's (via Format) many times in the past and have never had any issues with the keyboard - in fact I have used an ancient wireless keyboard that connects straight away !!