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  • Gr1pr
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    edited 9 March at 1:42PM
    Dcbl won't given you a password,  the password is actually issued by the CNBC on the N1SDT Claim form,  on the lower right side  ( I did mention that this is currently a  stage of no involvement by DCB Legal   )

    DCBL are definitely not involved at this stage,  DCBL are debt collectors,  but it's DCB Legal that are acting on behalf of their client Parking company,  VCS 

    The deadline for the AOS to be entered is 19 days from the issue date on the claim form,  not 14 days,  that acknowledgement and logging extends your defence deadline to 33 days from the issue date on the top right of the claim form 

    I have not seen any mention of the issue date 

    If you call as early as possible tomorrow,  you shouldn't have to wait long

    Definitely prep your defence,  regardless of anything else 

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 9 March at 1:58PM
    What's the issue date on your Claim?

    If you cannot log in, you can obviously just email the CNBC to acknowledge the claim form and say that you will defend in full (defence to follow), to buy yourself more time.

    We already provide all the CNBC emails in the first post of the Template Defence thread.

    DCB Legal aren't doing anything right now.

    Having said that, given the fact that a defence involves adding three or four words to para 2 of our Template and a date to the recommended paragraph 3, then a simple copy & paste extra paragraph copied from another VCS Airport defence (then copy the rest of the template of 30+ paragraphs) why not just do that today?


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  • Spottydog65
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    What's the issue date on your Claim?

    If you cannot log in, you can obviously just email the CNBC to acknowledge the claim form and say that you will defend in full (defence to follow), to buy yourself more time.

    We already provide all the CNBC emails in the first post of the Template Defence thread.

    DCB Legal aren't doing anything right now.

    Having said that, given the fact that a defence involves adding three or four words to para 2 of our Template and a date to the recommended paragraph 3, then a simple copy & paste extra paragraph copied from another VCS Airport defence (then copy the rest of the template of 30+ paragraphs) why not just do that today?


    Issue date on Claim is 19th Feb
    I've got all the emails and the template defence thread - many thanks to you all for putting that together it really is invaluable!
    agreed on putting it together today. I've gone ahead and done that as tbh I dont want to draw this out any further and want to get on with it. 
  • Spottydog65
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    Gr1pr said:
    Dcbl won't given you a password,  the password is actually issued by the CNBC on the N1SDT Claim form,  on the lower right side  ( I did mention that this is currently a  stage of no involvement by DCB Legal   )

    DCBL are definitely not involved at this stage,  DCBL are debt collectors,  but it's DCB Legal that are acting on behalf of their client Parking company,  VCS 

    The deadline for the AOS to be entered is 19 days from the issue date on the claim form,  not 14 days,  that acknowledgement and logging extends your defence deadline to 33 days from the issue date on the top right of the claim form 

    I have not seen any mention of the issue date 

    If you call as early as possible tomorrow,  you shouldn't have to wait long

    Definitely prep your defence,  regardless of anything else 

    Yes understood on password, I wrote DCBL instead of CNBC (although comments on DCBL stand)
    issue 19th Feb so 10th March is 19 days isn't it?
    Written defence now - agreed may as well prep it - will post here shortly.
    thanks
  • Spottydog65
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    Would welcome any feedback on this defence, which is (as advised) mostly from the template defence

    1.        The facts as known to the Defendant:
    The facts in this defence come from the Defendant's own knowledge and honest belief.  Conversely, the Claimant sets out a cut-and-paste and sparse statement of case. The POC appear to be in breach of CPR 16.4, 16PD3 and 16PD7, and fail to "state all facts necessary for the purpose of formulating a complete cause of action". 

    2.        Referring to the POC: paragraph 1 is denied. The Defendant is not indebted to the Claimant. Paragraph 2 is denied. A parking charge notice has been issued for a non-parking event. Stopping is not parking (Jopson v Homeward, B9GF0A9E, 2016). Whilst the Defendant is the registered keeper, paragraph 3 is denied. The specific circumstances of this event would have resulted in Bristol Airport (BA) bylaws being broken had stopping not taken place. Paragraph 4 is denied. The Defendant is not liable and has seen no evidence of a breach of prominent terms.  The quantum is hugely exaggerated (no PCN can be £170 on private land) and there were no damages incurred whatsoever. The Claimant is put to strict proof of all of their allegations.

    Rest as per template...

    Q: I'm assuming I dont need to elaborate on anything else at this stage and that would be in the WS at a later date. 


  • Gr1pr
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    Because you emailed the AOS today and received the AOS email response from the CNBC in Northampton,  your defence deadline will be 24th March at 4pm, but no problem if you email your eventual finalised defence draft earlier,  tomorrow if you wish,  but definitely within the next fortnight , regardless 

    Use the email address listed for claim responses in post 1 in the defence template thread by coupon mad,  attaching your defence as a pdf document 
  • Spottydog65
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    Gr1pr said:
    Because you emailed the AOS today and received the AOS email response from the CNBC in Northampton,  your defence deadline will be 24th March at 4pm, but no problem if you email your eventual finalised defence draft earlier,  tomorrow if you wish,  but definitely within the next fortnight , regardless 

    Use the email address listed for claim responses in post 1 in the defence template thread by coupon mad,  attaching your defence as a pdf document 
    That's great, thank you!!
  • 1505grandad
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    "Jopson v Homeward, B9GF0A9E, 2016)."

    If you are going to quote the above case check the correct spelling.
  • Spottydog65
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    "Jopson v Homeward, B9GF0A9E, 2016)."

    If you are going to quote the above case check the correct spelling.
    lost me there? isn't that what I've got?  Jopson v Homeward, B9GF0A9E, 2016??
  • Le_Kirk
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    edited 9 March at 4:50PM
    Jopson v Homeguard
    I think @1505grandad wanted you to check it.
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