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  • prowla
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    Can't you just put loads of them on a tactical-style belt to carry on?
  • TELLIT01
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    Pollycat said:
    TELLIT01 said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag

    But that's not helpful when it's been announced today that all airports in the EU have to follow what's already happened at UK airports and revert to liquids out of baggage.


    We flew from Birmingham after they reverted to the 100ml rule.  There was on requirement to take the bottles out of hand luggage, and this is their guidance -
    • Only liquids, pastes and gels in containers up to 100ml can be carried in hand luggage – anything larger needs to be in checked in luggage.

    • No liquids above this size.

    • Anything above the 100ml will be removed and destroyed.

    • There is no limit on the amount of under 100mls containers that can be carried.

    • Containers that can carry more than a 100ml, such as insulated bottles, are permitted but need to be completely empty.

    • Do not put your liquids, pastes and gels into plastic bags (please leave them loose in hand luggage).

    • Do not take them out of your hand luggage when you're in the security search area.




    Unless your experience was yesterday (1st Sept 2024), it's irrelevant. 
    There was a change yesterday 1/9/2024 that people need to read and understand. 

    Personally, rather than asking random strangers on t'interweb, I'd check the website of the airport I'm flying from and then gov.uk.
    Some of the posts here are out of date and some are irrelevant.

    It is not irrelevant.  The EU reintroduced the limits yesterday.  The UK did it in June, which is why I have posted information released at that time.  The information was lifted direct from the Birmingham Airport website yesterday.
  • Ayr_Rage said:
    From what is being reported - not all EU and UK airports have the most up to date serviceable scanner equipment - so the need to revert to previous practices.
    The issue is that new scanners are not performing as required, the quote below is from the BBC article.

    However, the EU has reinstated the 100ml limit so a technical issue with the new equipment can be addressed, although it has not said what this issue is.
    Simon Calder was on radio earlier this morning - he advised that the system software can't detect all potentially dangerous liquids - therefore every airport has reverted to a default position using previous procedures to err on the side of caution.
    He also said that 7 UK airports had the functioning equipment installed, only Aberdeen in Scotland.

  • Pollycat
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    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag
    This isn't the case at all airports - London City and Schiphol (airports I use a lot) seem to have the new type of scanners working, but I always personally ensure that liquids are in a clear plastic bag, in the right sized containers that can either be left in my main bag, or taken out depending on what is needed. 
    @Emmia as of today there is NO leaving it in your hand baggage in the UK or EU even if a new scanner is in place, please read the article that I and @SiliconChip posted the link for.
    I'm stating my experience based on recent travel, I can remove liquids as they are bagged and in the right sized containers - security are usually pretty active in telling travellers what they need to do. 

    If the OP /anyone goes prepared to remove, then no problem.

    I'm not bothering with your article. Thanks.
    Fair enough, but for everyone it's now bag it and remove it with the old limits.

    No exceptions, no discretion and no arguing within the UK and EU.

    @Emmia your recent experience is now irrelevant.
    I told people to stick to 100mls and bag, what exactly is wrong with that advice?

    Most airports in the UK and EU had never introduced the new scanners so it was always a bit pot luck and the need to bag never went away.

    The only practical difference is whether the bag could go through inside your hand luggage or not, having to unzip the bag to pop it out, Vs leaving it in isn't exactly the end of the world.
    What is wrong with that advice is that BHX website tells you not to put liquids in a bag.
    Which is why the best advice is to check the info on the website for the airport you're flying from. 
    Otherwise known as 'talk to the organ grinder. Not the monkey'.
  • Pollycat
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    TELLIT01 said:
    Pollycat said:
    TELLIT01 said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag

    But that's not helpful when it's been announced today that all airports in the EU have to follow what's already happened at UK airports and revert to liquids out of baggage.


    We flew from Birmingham after they reverted to the 100ml rule.  There was on requirement to take the bottles out of hand luggage, and this is their guidance -
    • Only liquids, pastes and gels in containers up to 100ml can be carried in hand luggage – anything larger needs to be in checked in luggage.

    • No liquids above this size.

    • Anything above the 100ml will be removed and destroyed.

    • There is no limit on the amount of under 100mls containers that can be carried.

    • Containers that can carry more than a 100ml, such as insulated bottles, are permitted but need to be completely empty.

    • Do not put your liquids, pastes and gels into plastic bags (please leave them loose in hand luggage).

    • Do not take them out of your hand luggage when you're in the security search area.




    Unless your experience was yesterday (1st Sept 2024), it's irrelevant. 
    There was a change yesterday 1/9/2024 that people need to read and understand. 

    Personally, rather than asking random strangers on t'interweb, I'd check the website of the airport I'm flying from and then gov.uk.
    Some of the posts here are out of date and some are irrelevant.

    It is not irrelevant.  The EU reintroduced the limits yesterday.  The UK did it in June, which is why I have posted information released at that time.  The information was lifted direct from the Birmingham Airport website yesterday.
    Then it's advisable (if you are giving advice) to give a link and maybe say when you accessed the information.
    And don't mix 'on' with 'no'.
  • Emmia
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    edited 2 September 2024 at 2:21PM
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag
    This isn't the case at all airports - London City and Schiphol (airports I use a lot) seem to have the new type of scanners working, but I always personally ensure that liquids are in a clear plastic bag, in the right sized containers that can either be left in my main bag, or taken out depending on what is needed. 
    @Emmia as of today there is NO leaving it in your hand baggage in the UK or EU even if a new scanner is in place, please read the article that I and @SiliconChip posted the link for.
    I'm stating my experience based on recent travel, I can remove liquids as they are bagged and in the right sized containers - security are usually pretty active in telling travellers what they need to do. 

    If the OP /anyone goes prepared to remove, then no problem.

    I'm not bothering with your article. Thanks.
    Fair enough, but for everyone it's now bag it and remove it with the old limits.

    No exceptions, no discretion and no arguing within the UK and EU.

    @Emmia your recent experience is now irrelevant.
    I told people to stick to 100mls and bag, what exactly is wrong with that advice?

    Most airports in the UK and EU had never introduced the new scanners so it was always a bit pot luck and the need to bag never went away.

    The only practical difference is whether the bag could go through inside your hand luggage or not, having to unzip the bag to pop it out, Vs leaving it in isn't exactly the end of the world.
    What is wrong with that advice is that BHX website tells you not to put liquids in a bag.
    Which is why the best advice is to check the info on the website for the airport you're flying from. 
    Otherwise known as 'talk to the organ grinder. Not the monkey'.
    And if you had put liquids in a bag in your carry on, you can just empty it, into your carry on, or the tray or whatever. Following whatever advice security were giving when you actually arrive at security.

    Gov.uk states the mini bottles must be in a transparent resealable bag measuring a maximum of 20cm x 20cm - but that's contrary to Birmingham airport which doesn't want bags.

    www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/liquids 

    You're being unbelievably fixated on "advice" being correct when it is clear there is a degree of inconsistency.

    Birmingham has advice, City will have advice, Schiphol will have advice, other airports will have advice.  Advice may or may not be the same in terms of how they want liquids (aside from the 100ml restriction) presented for security, some will want bagged, some won't, some places consider mascara or a lip balm a liquid, others don't.

    Powders like baby powder or makeup can be problematic too... But they're not liquids.
  • Pollycat
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    Emmia said:
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag
    This isn't the case at all airports - London City and Schiphol (airports I use a lot) seem to have the new type of scanners working, but I always personally ensure that liquids are in a clear plastic bag, in the right sized containers that can either be left in my main bag, or taken out depending on what is needed. 
    @Emmia as of today there is NO leaving it in your hand baggage in the UK or EU even if a new scanner is in place, please read the article that I and @SiliconChip posted the link for.
    I'm stating my experience based on recent travel, I can remove liquids as they are bagged and in the right sized containers - security are usually pretty active in telling travellers what they need to do. 

    If the OP /anyone goes prepared to remove, then no problem.

    I'm not bothering with your article. Thanks.
    Fair enough, but for everyone it's now bag it and remove it with the old limits.

    No exceptions, no discretion and no arguing within the UK and EU.

    @Emmia your recent experience is now irrelevant.
    I told people to stick to 100mls and bag, what exactly is wrong with that advice?

    Most airports in the UK and EU had never introduced the new scanners so it was always a bit pot luck and the need to bag never went away.

    The only practical difference is whether the bag could go through inside your hand luggage or not, having to unzip the bag to pop it out, Vs leaving it in isn't exactly the end of the world.
    What is wrong with that advice is that BHX website tells you not to put liquids in a bag.
    Which is why the best advice is to check the info on the website for the airport you're flying from. 
    Otherwise known as 'talk to the organ grinder. Not the monkey'.
    And if you had put liquids in a bag in your carry on, you can just empty it, into your carry on, or the tray or whatever. Following whatever advice security were giving when you actually arrive at security.

    Gov.uk states the mini bottles must be in a transparent resealable bag measuring a maximum of 20cm x 20cm - but that's contrary to Birmingham airport which doesn't want bags.

    www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/liquids 

    You're being unbelievably fixated on "advice" being correct when it is clear there is a degree of inconsistency.

    Birmingham has advice, City will have advice, Schiphol will have advice, other airports will have advice.  Advice may or may not be the same in terms of how they want liquids (aside from the 100ml restriction) presented for security, some will want bagged, some won't, some places consider mascara or a lip balm a liquid, others don't.

    Powders like baby powder or makeup can be problematic too... But they're not liquids.
    In my experience - certainly not as expert as you have assumed - it's best to follow instructions given by the airport you're flying from. 
    I'd rather do that than have to empty a plastic bag full of my liquids into a box and then retrieve them later. 

    I'm fixated on the instructions that each airport publishes.
    They'll are the ones who allow you to go there to Departures.

    Here's something that is probably news to you:
    MAN used to say that containers that were not labelled with the volume would not be allowed. 
    So if you had a 50ml container that wasn't labelled 50ml, it could be confiscated when though it was within the 100ml allowance. 
    I've not flown from MAN for a couple of years so that might not still be the case.

    But that is why I check the instructions for whatever airport we fly from rather than taking the opinions of random strangers on t'interweb.

  • Emmia
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    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag
    This isn't the case at all airports - London City and Schiphol (airports I use a lot) seem to have the new type of scanners working, but I always personally ensure that liquids are in a clear plastic bag, in the right sized containers that can either be left in my main bag, or taken out depending on what is needed. 
    @Emmia as of today there is NO leaving it in your hand baggage in the UK or EU even if a new scanner is in place, please read the article that I and @SiliconChip posted the link for.
    I'm stating my experience based on recent travel, I can remove liquids as they are bagged and in the right sized containers - security are usually pretty active in telling travellers what they need to do. 

    If the OP /anyone goes prepared to remove, then no problem.

    I'm not bothering with your article. Thanks.
    Fair enough, but for everyone it's now bag it and remove it with the old limits.

    No exceptions, no discretion and no arguing within the UK and EU.

    @Emmia your recent experience is now irrelevant.
    I told people to stick to 100mls and bag, what exactly is wrong with that advice?

    Most airports in the UK and EU had never introduced the new scanners so it was always a bit pot luck and the need to bag never went away.

    The only practical difference is whether the bag could go through inside your hand luggage or not, having to unzip the bag to pop it out, Vs leaving it in isn't exactly the end of the world.
    What is wrong with that advice is that BHX website tells you not to put liquids in a bag.
    Which is why the best advice is to check the info on the website for the airport you're flying from. 
    Otherwise known as 'talk to the organ grinder. Not the monkey'.
    And if you had put liquids in a bag in your carry on, you can just empty it, into your carry on, or the tray or whatever. Following whatever advice security were giving when you actually arrive at security.

    Gov.uk states the mini bottles must be in a transparent resealable bag measuring a maximum of 20cm x 20cm - but that's contrary to Birmingham airport which doesn't want bags.

    www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/liquids 

    You're being unbelievably fixated on "advice" being correct when it is clear there is a degree of inconsistency.

    Birmingham has advice, City will have advice, Schiphol will have advice, other airports will have advice.  Advice may or may not be the same in terms of how they want liquids (aside from the 100ml restriction) presented for security, some will want bagged, some won't, some places consider mascara or a lip balm a liquid, others don't.

    Powders like baby powder or makeup can be problematic too... But they're not liquids.
    In my experience - certainly not as expert as you have assumed - it's best to follow instructions given by the airport you're flying from. 
    I'd rather do that than have to empty a plastic bag full of my liquids into a box and then retrieve them later. 

    I'm fixated on the instructions that each airport publishes.
    They'll are the ones who allow you to go there to Departures.

    Here's something that is probably news to you:
    MAN used to say that containers that were not labelled with the volume would not be allowed. 
    So if you had a 50ml container that wasn't labelled 50ml, it could be confiscated when though it was within the 100ml allowance. 
    I've not flown from MAN for a couple of years so that might not still be the case.

    But that is why I check the instructions for whatever airport we fly from rather than taking the opinions of random strangers on t'interweb.

    It is not possible for MSE or a single site  to publish exhaustive advice for every airport globally, that will always be correct in every minute detail, especially as rules and approaches can change at the drop of a hat.

    Heathrow has both types of scanner (ones where you remove and ones where you don't) depending on if you're using the area for first class or not -  on an early morning departure I was directed to use the first class screening area, rather than the standard one I was expecting to as indicated by my boarding pass... How would someone pre-prepare for that?

    Myself and others have offered guidance so that people will be in a good position whatever they need to do - it is easier to empty a bag, than it is to magic one up when in security if you didn't bring one, it is easy to remove liquids from baggage if that's needed (especially if they're bagged) if you pop them at the top of your bag. Sticking with the 100ml limits in marked containers is also easy if you buy them suitably marked at the outset. We're not wrong just because airports are inconsistent in how they apply the rules - but you keep on at the advice being wrong. 

    If you or others wish to repeatedly trawl airport websites for up to date info, then crack on, but that info could change whilst you're away.

    I take a practical approach which aims to be able to respond to whatever rules I find in front of me on the day I travel. I travel a lot, staying on top of detailed rules at multiple airports in the UK, EU, EEA etc. isn't something I go in for... And I've never had liquids confiscated even though 99% of my travel is hand luggage only. I also take the same approach on Eurostar where there are no size restrictions. 
  • Pollycat
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    Emmia said:
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag
    This isn't the case at all airports - London City and Schiphol (airports I use a lot) seem to have the new type of scanners working, but I always personally ensure that liquids are in a clear plastic bag, in the right sized containers that can either be left in my main bag, or taken out depending on what is needed. 
    @Emmia as of today there is NO leaving it in your hand baggage in the UK or EU even if a new scanner is in place, please read the article that I and @SiliconChip posted the link for.
    I'm stating my experience based on recent travel, I can remove liquids as they are bagged and in the right sized containers - security are usually pretty active in telling travellers what they need to do. 

    If the OP /anyone goes prepared to remove, then no problem.

    I'm not bothering with your article. Thanks.
    Fair enough, but for everyone it's now bag it and remove it with the old limits.

    No exceptions, no discretion and no arguing within the UK and EU.

    @Emmia your recent experience is now irrelevant.
    I told people to stick to 100mls and bag, what exactly is wrong with that advice?

    Most airports in the UK and EU had never introduced the new scanners so it was always a bit pot luck and the need to bag never went away.

    The only practical difference is whether the bag could go through inside your hand luggage or not, having to unzip the bag to pop it out, Vs leaving it in isn't exactly the end of the world.
    What is wrong with that advice is that BHX website tells you not to put liquids in a bag.
    Which is why the best advice is to check the info on the website for the airport you're flying from. 
    Otherwise known as 'talk to the organ grinder. Not the monkey'.
    And if you had put liquids in a bag in your carry on, you can just empty it, into your carry on, or the tray or whatever. Following whatever advice security were giving when you actually arrive at security.

    Gov.uk states the mini bottles must be in a transparent resealable bag measuring a maximum of 20cm x 20cm - but that's contrary to Birmingham airport which doesn't want bags.

    www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/liquids 

    You're being unbelievably fixated on "advice" being correct when it is clear there is a degree of inconsistency.

    Birmingham has advice, City will have advice, Schiphol will have advice, other airports will have advice.  Advice may or may not be the same in terms of how they want liquids (aside from the 100ml restriction) presented for security, some will want bagged, some won't, some places consider mascara or a lip balm a liquid, others don't.

    Powders like baby powder or makeup can be problematic too... But they're not liquids.
    In my experience - certainly not as expert as you have assumed - it's best to follow instructions given by the airport you're flying from. 
    I'd rather do that than have to empty a plastic bag full of my liquids into a box and then retrieve them later. 

    I'm fixated on the instructions that each airport publishes.
    They'll are the ones who allow you to go there to Departures.

    Here's something that is probably news to you:
    MAN used to say that containers that were not labelled with the volume would not be allowed. 
    So if you had a 50ml container that wasn't labelled 50ml, it could be confiscated when though it was within the 100ml allowance. 
    I've not flown from MAN for a couple of years so that might not still be the case.

    But that is why I check the instructions for whatever airport we fly from rather than taking the opinions of random strangers on t'interweb.

    It is not possible for MSE or a single site  to publish exhaustive advice for every airport globally, that will always be correct in every minute detail, especially as rules and approaches can change at the drop of a hat.

    Heathrow has both types of scanner (ones where you remove and ones where you don't) depending on if you're using the area for first class or not -  on an early morning departure I was directed to use the first class screening area, rather than the standard one I was expecting to as indicated by my boarding pass... How would someone pre-prepare for that?

    Myself and others have offered guidance so that people will be in a good position whatever they need to do - it is easier to empty a bag, than it is to magic one up when in security if you didn't bring one, it is easy to remove liquids from baggage if that's needed (especially if they're bagged) if you pop them at the top of your bag. Sticking with the 100ml limits in marked containers is also easy if you buy them suitably marked at the outset. We're not wrong just because airports are inconsistent in how they apply the rules - but you keep on at the advice being wrong. 

    If you or others wish to repeatedly trawl airport websites for up to date info, then crack on, but that info could change whilst you're away.

    I take a practical approach which aims to be able to respond to whatever rules I find in front of me on the day I travel. I travel a lot, staying on top of detailed rules at multiple airports in the UK, EU, EEA etc. isn't something I go in for... And I've never had liquids confiscated even though 99% of my travel is hand luggage only. I also take the same approach on Eurostar where there are no size restrictions. 
    I appreciate that which is why (yawn) I keep suggesting that people check out the website of the airport they're flying from rather than relaxing on A3 red party website.

    It's much easier to check the instructions BEFORE you get to security so that you don't have to empty bags or magic one up. 

    I'm obviously not as regular a flyer as you so I don't have to 'repeatedly trawl airport websites'. 
    And if the situation changes whilst I'm away, it won't matter because I won't be going through the same security route on the way home. 

  • Emmia
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    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Pollycat said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    Ayr_Rage said:
    Emmia said:
    When I flew through Bristol earlier in the year, the new scanners were in Place.amd no bags provided, all liquids were scanned whilst in your bag
    This isn't the case at all airports - London City and Schiphol (airports I use a lot) seem to have the new type of scanners working, but I always personally ensure that liquids are in a clear plastic bag, in the right sized containers that can either be left in my main bag, or taken out depending on what is needed. 
    @Emmia as of today there is NO leaving it in your hand baggage in the UK or EU even if a new scanner is in place, please read the article that I and @SiliconChip posted the link for.
    I'm stating my experience based on recent travel, I can remove liquids as they are bagged and in the right sized containers - security are usually pretty active in telling travellers what they need to do. 

    If the OP /anyone goes prepared to remove, then no problem.

    I'm not bothering with your article. Thanks.
    Fair enough, but for everyone it's now bag it and remove it with the old limits.

    No exceptions, no discretion and no arguing within the UK and EU.

    @Emmia your recent experience is now irrelevant.
    I told people to stick to 100mls and bag, what exactly is wrong with that advice?

    Most airports in the UK and EU had never introduced the new scanners so it was always a bit pot luck and the need to bag never went away.

    The only practical difference is whether the bag could go through inside your hand luggage or not, having to unzip the bag to pop it out, Vs leaving it in isn't exactly the end of the world.
    What is wrong with that advice is that BHX website tells you not to put liquids in a bag.
    Which is why the best advice is to check the info on the website for the airport you're flying from. 
    Otherwise known as 'talk to the organ grinder. Not the monkey'.
    And if you had put liquids in a bag in your carry on, you can just empty it, into your carry on, or the tray or whatever. Following whatever advice security were giving when you actually arrive at security.

    Gov.uk states the mini bottles must be in a transparent resealable bag measuring a maximum of 20cm x 20cm - but that's contrary to Birmingham airport which doesn't want bags.

    www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/liquids 

    You're being unbelievably fixated on "advice" being correct when it is clear there is a degree of inconsistency.

    Birmingham has advice, City will have advice, Schiphol will have advice, other airports will have advice.  Advice may or may not be the same in terms of how they want liquids (aside from the 100ml restriction) presented for security, some will want bagged, some won't, some places consider mascara or a lip balm a liquid, others don't.

    Powders like baby powder or makeup can be problematic too... But they're not liquids.
    In my experience - certainly not as expert as you have assumed - it's best to follow instructions given by the airport you're flying from. 
    I'd rather do that than have to empty a plastic bag full of my liquids into a box and then retrieve them later. 

    I'm fixated on the instructions that each airport publishes.
    They'll are the ones who allow you to go there to Departures.

    Here's something that is probably news to you:
    MAN used to say that containers that were not labelled with the volume would not be allowed. 
    So if you had a 50ml container that wasn't labelled 50ml, it could be confiscated when though it was within the 100ml allowance. 
    I've not flown from MAN for a couple of years so that might not still be the case.

    But that is why I check the instructions for whatever airport we fly from rather than taking the opinions of random strangers on t'interweb.

    It is not possible for MSE or a single site  to publish exhaustive advice for every airport globally, that will always be correct in every minute detail, especially as rules and approaches can change at the drop of a hat.

    Heathrow has both types of scanner (ones where you remove and ones where you don't) depending on if you're using the area for first class or not -  on an early morning departure I was directed to use the first class screening area, rather than the standard one I was expecting to as indicated by my boarding pass... How would someone pre-prepare for that?

    Myself and others have offered guidance so that people will be in a good position whatever they need to do - it is easier to empty a bag, than it is to magic one up when in security if you didn't bring one, it is easy to remove liquids from baggage if that's needed (especially if they're bagged) if you pop them at the top of your bag. Sticking with the 100ml limits in marked containers is also easy if you buy them suitably marked at the outset. We're not wrong just because airports are inconsistent in how they apply the rules - but you keep on at the advice being wrong. 

    If you or others wish to repeatedly trawl airport websites for up to date info, then crack on, but that info could change whilst you're away.

    I take a practical approach which aims to be able to respond to whatever rules I find in front of me on the day I travel. I travel a lot, staying on top of detailed rules at multiple airports in the UK, EU, EEA etc. isn't something I go in for... And I've never had liquids confiscated even though 99% of my travel is hand luggage only. I also take the same approach on Eurostar where there are no size restrictions. 
    I appreciate that which is why (yawn) I keep suggesting that people check out the website of the airport they're flying from rather than relaxing on A3 red party website.

    It's much easier to check the instructions BEFORE you get to security so that you don't have to empty bags or magic one up. 

    I'm obviously not as regular a flyer as you so I don't have to 'repeatedly trawl airport websites'. 
    And if the situation changes whilst I'm away, it won't matter because I won't be going through the same security route on the way home. 

    The rules could change at either end.  You leave compliant for your return journey, but in between the rules change... 
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