Dismissed from job 3 years ago, no references, not sure where to start to get a job

Marcon

NeedSomeHRadvice said:

Undervalued said:

NeedSomeHRadvice said:

LinLui said:

There's "some form of NDA clause"? What does that mean? Exactly. Not the rough,  roundabout, something or other, skirting around the truth / issue of the last 4 pages. I'm sorry,  but you are drip feeding facts to people who (a) don't really care about your history,  and (b) are trying to help you.

You got bullied,  left under a settlement agreement. You moved to a job you stayed in for very little time but somehow still managed to find cause to sue the employer and yet again let under a settlement agreement. Then you stayed off work for years,  apparently claiming to be a caring for a parent but actually watching box sets? And apparently you are so tainted, whilst obviously having done nothing wrong,  that your old managers and possibly colleagues "have it in for you" and would blackball / blacklist you if they could. What makes you so important that out of the thousands of NHS employees that will have gone through the system in the last few years,  they will all recall you? 

And your solicitor suggested lying? And now ..."Only issue is the NMC say I need to get back to work or else leave the register and getting back on will be a hassle!! " So you don't want to go back to work? It's just because of NMC rules? 

Realistically, this may all be true, but - seriously- would you believe it? Do you actually want to go back to nursing / work? Have you told us everything that transpired? I actually don't care if you murdered someone and spent years in jail. I've employed two of those! But if you really want help - real help - we need to know what is going on. Truthfully and fully. 

There's "some form of NDA clause"? What does that mean? 

>>>It means the below, I have copied the text from my settlement agreement:-

"With the exception of their immediate family and legal representative [who will commit to do the same] and as required by any Court, or regulatory body, they will make no disclosure or announcement with regard to the fact or terms of this agreement.

They have not made, and will not do so in the future, any disclosure or announcement with regard to the negotiations leading up to this agreement with the exception of their immediate family and legal representative [who will commit to do the same]."

>>> Let me know what you think I should say to new employers in light of the NDA clause above?

Settlement agreements, except at very senior levels, are largely standard clauses boiler plated together (quite often badly)!

Those NDA clauses look very standard to me however quite often there is a further clause allowing the former employee to disclose, in confidence, to a potential employer. If yours doesn't then either whoever was advising you didn't do a very good job or the former employer dug their heels in for whatever reason. Ultimately you opted to sign.

Even if I could tell the new employer, what would I say? 

"I got fired after I said to my manager that he/she had misled me into the job and is expecting me to do the job of a temp with no training putting patients at risk and then I took them to tribunal and settled out of court?"

No one would employ me if I said that.... 

I have laid out what happened in a good amount of detail. Say there wasn't NDA involved and I could say anything I wanted to a new employer. If you were in my situation, what would you say to a new employer about what happened / explain the gap in employment when asked?? 

You're doing it again...or rather, still doing it and finding imaginary insurmountable barriers - and they really aren't real. You aren't the only person this has ever happened to, although you seem to be determined that must be the case, and that your previous employers and colleagues are all going to be madly focussed what happened some years ago. It's hugely important to you, but not to them - why would it be?

You were the one who took 3 years off, so why not try the truth, albeit one which doesn't provide more detail than you're comfortable with? 

But please, think seriously about getting some help with your mental health. Everything you've written suggests you are still thinking in victim mode, and it's not easy to get out of that without some professional support, not least to try and get things in perspective.

TBagpuss

Your explanation forthe last job would be "It wasn't a good fit, unfortunatly I was misled about the job and dismissed when I raied concerns. I then too a career break , caring fofamily members"
It's not that complictaed.
If you apply for jobs within the NHS then that may overcome the issue of refernces aas you are referring them back to themselves, alternatively, look for temp work, and then start to apply for permanent jobs nce you have that under your belt. 

I'm not in the helthcare sector but am an employer and a one off situuation whwere someone left a job after a very short period, where they had other, longer periods of meployment on their CV is not a huge red flag, and simple 'the job wasn't as described' or 'it turned out to be a rweally bad fit / different to the job as advertised is a pretty normal reason for leaveing so quickly.

theoretica

NeedSomeHRadvice said:

I've applied for a NHS temp job and I've got a reply from the employer asking me to explain the 3 year gap and asking for references to cover the last 3 years and 2 character references from people who have known me for the last 3 years (to cover the gap). I can provide the work references which were included in the settlement agreement but I can't provide references for the 3 years I've been a homebody.  

What my employer would mean by that is:

explain the 3 year gap - what were you doing?

and asking for references to cover the last 3 years - prove it (eg documentation of unemployment benefits, tickets for travel)

and 2 character references from people who have known me for the last 3 years (to cover the gap).- people who have known you for 3 years (and our HR would accept multiple people to cover the time, if needed) - neighbours, sports friends, parents' friends...

My employer just wants decent proof that someone hasn't been drug dealing or doing anything else worse than staying at home.  Not looking for great positives and praise, just back up of the truth.