REVIVING THE PRIVATE PARKING BILL

Thorndorise

With the IPC wheeling out the campaign messages too!

I'm continuing to see the quotes in these (and other's posts on LinkedIn) that appear to have no basis in truth...

"Evidence or Data shows" - non-compliance doubles at £70 vs £100... I mean does it?

I love how he dresses PCNs up as non-punitive - rather protective!

Car1980

Yawn. 

Profit depends on how many invoices you can churn out and how high you can make your invoices. And the £70 wheeze is the cherry on top.

Give me the job of designing universal signage and a set of rules for their use and watch compliance increase by 50% and profits dip by 50%.

Reminds me of the fox hunters and their omertà. You must never ever state that you just love watching foxes being gruesomely killed. Always deflect criticism by use of "tradition", "classism", "ignorance of rural life" etc.

Ralph-y

having just come back from a smallish town in the Netherlands I could not find any private parking ! yet no carmagedon! I know the bigger cities do have them ..... 

Nellymoser

Thorndorise said:

With the IPC wheeling out the campaign messages too!
I'm continuing to see the quotes in these (and other's posts on LinkedIn) that appear to have no basis in truth...
"Evidence or Data shows" - non-compliance doubles at £70 vs £100... I mean does it?
I love how he dresses PCNs up as non-punitive - rather protective!

"It's important that we don't let the voices of a few dilute a system that works." A few Mr Hurley really!!! I think you'll find it's much more than a few. Even the MHCLG Minister Alex Norris doesn’t think the industry's system works he said so twice at the MPs regulation debate. 

"that is not a system that is working"
"but that is not how a system ought to work."
"It should not rely on politicians intervening in individual cases to change policy." 

Seems the BPA are no better than Mr Hurley, no mention of the Minister's opinion or his statements in this article.

https://www.britishparking-media.co.uk/blogs/whats-next-for-the-regulation-of-private-parking

Sounds like Mr Hurley and BPA joined Kaizen2024 in turning off the MPs debate!

Protest

So BPA are ready, and are managing the national DoT parking payment management system, rather like appointing the wolf to run residential care. Now Norris has moved......

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-14896751/Government-bending-knee-rogue-private-parking-firm.html?ico=mol_desktop_home

"another example of how we are fixing the things that really impact people's day-to-day lives" says Norris.... just like the economy - slowly, ineffectively and with no effort at competence or accountabilty.

Does this consultation deliver what motorists need?  " [latest proposal package] does little to offer protection for drivers,' Jack Cousens, the AA's roads policy spokesman, told This is Money.

exongrad

Here it is
https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/private-parking-code-of-practice/private-parking-code-of-practice

Protest

Early-bird exongrad catches unpalatable worm? Given the way this topic was handled in 2022 we might expect an exemplary consultation effort this time................   It looks like more than the knee is bent!

Gr1pr

It was reported yesterday 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025#latest

Protest

It might be expected that every effort would be made by Norris & Co to ensure that this second attempt at running a successful consultation process would be exemplary. 

"Thank you for your email.

This [consultation text] would not get a Crystal Mark.

The questions are not that badly written but a lot of them are a bit too ambiguous so the public would not necessarily understand what they are referring to.......

I hope this helps.

Manager, 

Plain English Campaign

https://www.plainenglish.co.uk

We promote the use of plain English"

I had simply asked "would this consultation document qualify for a Crystal Mark?" The response came back almost immediately.

I see Bargepole has decided that advocacy is more fun than unpicking this case. But it is the one we do need to master to prevent BPA/IPC from winning. How best do we present our case? For example it is obvious that the parking industry is well-funded and well-organised. Is there a case for Govt support to be offered to the motorist/consumer lobby to prepare a response (given that the consultation will require considerable effort to unpick the current position)? 

daveyjp

I've just been running through the consultation again and if I was a lay person I'd not have a clue what was being asked, what the issues were or how to put in a response which would actually make a difference.

There does not even appear to be much scope to even try and lever in some of the massive issues around this whole industry which is built on what is an unsutainable model.  Generating income from people 'breaking rules'.

The question regarding size of sign is particularly laughable.  No context, no reasoning, nothing to educate the lay person what the issues are.

It reminds me of Willy Wonka and the ever shrinking font size on his contract before entering the factory.