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Court Claim Received from HX & Gladstones

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  • Worzel_
    Worzel_ Posts: 83 Forumite
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    Thanks again @LDast that looks great
  • Coupon-mad
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    Do you know how to 'amend a defence' and that @LDast didn't intend that to be the whole defence?
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  • LDast
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    Agreed. That is mainly the preliminary matter that needs to go in to point out the claimants failure to comply with the order. They have not shown that any contract exists between the driver and the operator.
  • Worzel_
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    Do you know how to 'amend a defence' and that @LDast didn't intend that to be the whole defence?
    Ah, no I don't.
  • Le_Kirk
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    Take your defence as already submitted and, using your favourite word processor, strike out any text you don't want to use and add any new text in blue just to differentiate between old and new.
  • Car1980
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    edited 1 December 2024 at 4:18PM
    I'm a bit concerned that you're defending against fresh air.

    This is a gift. The contract they claim agrees between you doesn't mention anything about any charges other then the hourly charge whatsoever.

    I'd be making a new paragraph 1, paste in their photo, and stating none of the facts stated in the claimant's particulars feature in the contract at all and that the case should be struck out.

    All the other defence points can go afterward. Although there is an argument that that isn't even necessary.
  • Worzel_
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    Car1980 said:
    The contract they claim agrees between you doesn't mention anything about any charges other then the hourly charge whatsoever.
    So the contract here is whats on that green sign?

    I've been on google maps looking at the other signs, they have some black ones but they don't mention £100 charge or any penalty either.

    In any case I'm waiting for a family member to take actual photos of all their signage before proceeding.
  • Worzel_
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    edited 11 December 2024 at 7:26PM
    I have my amended defence document here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16DPNuW1olQsUSQP0Hp7nyJfWJDRhrZtRKceNUsoh50Q/edit?usp=sharing

    Could anyone guide me what else I need to add to it.

    You can see the old defence in Strikethrough and new defence in blue.

    Question: did the new particulars remove the basis for point 5.4 in the old defence about them calculating interest?

    Question: if the signs at the car park do mention a £100 charge does it undermine this defence, or is it still valid since it attacks the signage relied upon in their particulars (that do not show a £100 charge).
  • Coupon-mad
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    I think that's a good amended defence.

    Make sure you don't miss your deadline to email it to the local court and cc in the solicitor.
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  • Gr1pr
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    Let Gladstone's, the claimant and the court worry about those details you asked about 

    Its for the claimant and their lawyers to prove their case and to satisfy the court, let them worry about it 
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