Carparkers Appeal

KeithP

foehammer92 said:

So I guess now it’s pay the fine or deal with debt letters for the next few years right?

After reading the rest of your post, I am surprised you are still asking questions of the forum.
Good luck.

LDast

Only a "mug" pays because a POPLA appeal was not successful. It has no bearing whatsoever on any future proceedings. The ultimate dispute resolution service is the small claims track in the county court.

Whilst you may feel aggrieved about the POPLA result, it would appear that you didn't include all the necessary points in your initial appeal to them and tried to introduce more points of appeal in your response to the operators evidence.

Coupon-mad

There's no fine.  

Nobody pays if they lose at POPLA.

This isn't random advice.  No-one who follows our advice pays or risks a CCJ.  We know what we're doing and it seems you misunderstood what POPLA is?

It is unimportant, not independent appeal and was just a punt. POPLA was merely a stage worth a try because some PCNs are cancelled that way.  It doesn't affect your case.

Nothing will happen except the daft threatograms shown in the 4th post of the NEWBIES thread that you'd have been ignoring anyway.  Nothing has changed.

foehammer92

LDast said:

Only a "mug" pays because a POPLA appeal was not successful. It has no bearing whatsoever on any future proceedings. The ultimate dispute resolution service is the small claims track in the county court.

Whilst you may feel aggrieved about the POPLA result, it would appear that you didn't include all the necessary points in your initial appeal to them and tried to introduce more points of appeal in your response to the operators evidence.

Funnily enough I used your suggested response as my first appeal. When it was denied and I asked for the popla response another person told me to say something completely different. I did ask for your input as it seemed I should follow up at popla with more of what you told me to say to the first lot. You then had a go at me and told me to stop overthinking. Now I failed to add the correct info….cheers. That’s that good advice I was talking about. 

I will ignore the coming letters

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Trainerman

foehammer92 said:

Finally got a response. Not successful.

frankly I think I got bad advice here. No continuity of advice and random people saying do different stuff. 

Popla response includes the following: 

“ I acknowledge that the appellant has made comments about the signage and the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) in response to the operator’s evidence. However, I cannot consider this as it is a new ground of appeal. POPLA can only consider grounds of appeal raised within the initial submission of the appeal to POPLA. The comments section is not a platform to raise new grounds, but to extend commentary on those issues already raised.”

I did try to highlight this before submitting my appeal that the help here is random and no real strategy has been provided. That I felt like a blind person taking directions from multiple people at once who won’t explain the destination. 

So I guess now it’s pay the fine or deal with debt letters for the next few years right? Gee thanks wish one of you gurus said that before I started copying and pasting things as if there was gonna be any kind of strategy behind the seemingly meaningless stuff I was advised to copy and paste

I translate that as "Thanks for answering my questions, Forumites, but you cost me money because you were wrong and now I will have to pay "

Where do you think you would be without the Forum hmmmmm? Paid already, probably. 

At the risk of being one of those awful , inaccurate useless Forumites that you seem to think should be ignored, let me adduce some facts -
1) PoPLA are not truly independent, and in  my view 'assessors' often lack the skills and knowledge they need.
2) A PoPLA decision is not binding on the motorist. No harm done. You will receive silly debt letters but so what?
3) You now have two options - pay the scammers PCN or refuse to do so and see if you ever receive a letter of claim.

If you do receive one, then you will have to decide what to do. I know a place where you could get a lot of help, but .......???

If it then goes to Court, I know a place where you could get a lot of help but from your post I assume you won't  want advice.

Good luck with that.

The whole thing is a bit ungrateful to people who do all this free, from the goodness o their hearts and all over something rather meaningless - A PoPLA result. I 'lost' one two years ago. Ain't paid. Court looms .... do I look scared?