Sold Campervan buyer wants money back

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sheslookinhot said:

Do not respond. That is poor advice. 

It's amazing some people just won't listen to what they are being told, CAB would be my last port of call for legal advice

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mandy1955 said:

saajan_12 said:

The points about recorded letter and being from the seller not an 'official body' are irrelevant. Regular post is assumed to have been served x days later (depending on 1st or 2nd class) and for small civil claims, the person can act on their own behalf, no need for a lawyer. 

Re what to do: you don't need to do anything, and can just wait for if / when they issue a court claim. Its cheap to send a LBA in the hopes it scares you, but there's actual fees involved (albeit small) to file a court claim. If they have no valid claim then there's no court fees for you either. 

Alternatively you could clearly write back to them ONCE ONLY, to say that it was a private as is sale, where the buyer or his repreesentative were able to inspect the camper in detail. You do not believe anything is due, and the buyer will just incur unnecessary court fees.  You also ask them to cease with tarnishing your name or you will counterclaim for this. The idea is to discourage him from filing a court claim.. not because you'd lose, but because it'll stress you out further. Only reply once, don't get sucked into ongoing back and forth.  

Thank you for the response, I have just been to my local CAB again,  they advised me in the beginning that it is unlikely he will carry out his court threats so I showed them the two letters I got from him.   She took them in the back for a supervisor to read and on her return she told me not to be stressed as the latest letter is mainly copied and pasted off the website from small claims.   She said if I want to respond ONCE then I should just used factual bullet points stating: three people inspected the van,  all paperwork was there for him to inspect at time of sale,  I said the belt had been changed but NOT by me however he still bought and paid for the van,  and any other issues after the event are not relevant.   
This is what I am going to do next.   I have all letters, texts, whatsapp messages, messenger texts and screenshots of him slating me on my own campervan groups. Also messages slating my garage mechanic.

There are so many that when I showed CAB this morning she agreed it borders on harassment.

thank you to everyone for making me feel better. 

DO NOT enter into any more correspondence with the person 

mandy1955

sheslookinhot said:

Do not respond. That is poor advice. 

I've decided to ignore him, unless or until I get a court letter. 

mandy1955

sheslookinhot said:

However upsetting it may be, if it is, do as you have been recommended on here. IGNORE the letter.

  It means he is trying to bully you into submission. Do not contact him whatsoever.

I am going to ignore him totally,  I feel that if I respond he will think he's getting to me.  Thank you.  

mandy1955

I have taken the advise from this forum and totally ignored the buyer.
I was at a Festival from Thursday 25th July and on the Saturday I got a long text message off him again saying because I have not responded they are pressing ahead with the CAB and court action.
Now, I don't know much about engines but I do know Japanese imported vehicles need undersealing on import to help protect their undersides from the salt we put on our roads in winter, something that Japan do not do.
The day before I bought it in 2021 the guy I bought it from had the MOT done for me. 
the advisories were as follows:
1 power steering has slight seepage from a component rack  [ I had this done in Wigan it cost £121 
2 front brake disc worn, pitted or scored [ I also paid for new brakes the same week
3 Underbody heavily undersealed [ I was happy to know it had been undersealed but to make sure everything was ok around the next MOT I had new sills, wheel bearing replaced and I had removal of old underseal and re-undersealed as this is meant to be redone every couple of years.   He is saying that I knew there were issues with corroded pipes because it was heavily undersealed when I bought it!  He has the receipts for the removal of old underseal and reseal.

He is saying I knew the GEAR BOX pipes were corroded because he can see the POWER STEERING component had a slight seepage.  This was nothing to do with the gear box and I had it fixed 3 years ago.

I received another text off his wife this morning saying my garage knew about the gear box as it was an advisory by one of my garages.[ he is referring to the UNDERSEAL] there has never been an issue or any advisory re gear box.    
I went to CAB today who said my only recourse is to wait to see if they take me to court but they are UNABLE to help or offer LEGAL advice, so I am guessing the buyer is not being truthful about his branch of CAB as he says they are advising him all the way.
I can't afford solicitors as I am a pensioner on only state pension I am losing sleep over this and it's stressing me so much that it's making me ill.
He bought the vehicle on 29th May so it has been 3 months now.
wits end doesn't come into it 
 Should I keep ignoring him and his wife do you think?  thank you again. 
If anyone would like to view the MOT history the reg number is below.
P502JMS

elsien

Block both him and his wife so that you no longer get texts from them. Then wait to see if any proper court letters (as opposed to threats)  arrive. 

elsien

Block both him and his wife and anyone else you get any further messages from so that you no longer get texts from them. You should’ve done that long time ago as I think has already been advised.  Then wait to see if any proper court letters (as opposed to threats)  arrive. 

eskbanker

mandy1955 said:

Should I keep ignoring him and his wife do you think?

All of the above is just more of the same, so the advice remains the same too: ignore until/unless you receive anything from a court!

Jumblebumble

mandy1955 said:

I have taken the advise from this forum and totally ignored the buyer.
I was at a Festival from Thursday 25th July and on the Saturday I got a long text message off him again saying because I have not responded they are pressing ahead with the CAB and court action.
Now, I don't know much about engines but I do know Japanese imported vehicles need undersealing on import to help protect their undersides from the salt we put on our roads in winter, something that Japan do not do.
The day before I bought it in 2021 the guy I bought it from had the MOT done for me. 
the advisories were as follows:
1 power steering has slight seepage from a component rack  [ I had this done in Wigan it cost £121 
2 front brake disc worn, pitted or scored [ I also paid for new brakes the same week
3 Underbody heavily undersealed [ I was happy to know it had been undersealed but to make sure everything was ok around the next MOT I had new sills, wheel bearing replaced and I had removal of old underseal and re-undersealed as this is meant to be redone every couple of years.   He is saying that I knew there were issues with corroded pipes because it was heavily undersealed when I bought it!  He has the receipts for the removal of old underseal and reseal.

He is saying I knew the GEAR BOX pipes were corroded because he can see the POWER STEERING component had a slight seepage.  This was nothing to do with the gear box and I had it fixed 3 years ago.

I received another text off his wife this morning saying my garage knew about the gear box as it was an advisory by one of my garages.[ he is referring to the UNDERSEAL] there has never been an issue or any advisory re gear box.    
I went to CAB today who said my only recourse is to wait to see if they take me to court but they are UNABLE to help or offer LEGAL advice, so I am guessing the buyer is not being truthful about his branch of CAB as he says they are advising him all the way.
I can't afford solicitors as I am a pensioner on only state pension I am losing sleep over this and it's stressing me so much that it's making me ill.
He bought the vehicle on 29th May so it has been 3 months now.
wits end doesn't come into it 
 Should I keep ignoring him and his wife do you think?  thank you again. 
If anyone would like to view the MOT history the reg number is below.
P502JMS

My advice is you are correct that the more you indulge this buffoon at this stage  the more they will want.
Just ignore if and until you receive court summons and then no doubt some kind person here will advise you about a defence
There is no way the CAB have advised him to go to court if I am understanding the situation correctly
The buyers are also talking nonsense by bringing up advisories from 3 years and 20,000 miles ago and your thinking  should be "so what"
Without being rude a prudent buyer understands that a 20 year old camper is very possibly one step away the scrap yard in any case  and i suspect a court are going to agree.

Barkin

mandy1955 said:

I received another text off his wife this morning 

Some time ago, you said:

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mandy1955 said:

I've decided to ignore him, unless or until I get a court letter. 

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 I'd have blocked all texts etc from them long ago.