Widowed parents backpayments and receiving benefits

Dorothys_slipper

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. Its all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

Dorothys_slipper

poppy12345 said:

You don't qualify so appealing the decision isn't going to change that. If you're not happy with the law then contact your local MP. 

Thank you. I have done. 

marcia_

Dorothys_slipper said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. It's all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

 The law says you can't have been living together in a new relationship that means at any time from the date would have qualified, makes no difference if the relationship ended. In benefits law it does count. 

Dorothys_slipper

sheramber said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/backdated-payments-for-widowed-parents-allowance

"This guidance was withdrawn on 9th February 2024". It's all as clear as mud and has given false hope to many widowed parents that should have been entitled the first time.

Dorothys_slipper

poppy12345 said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It's about help with benefits entitlement, not about benefits policy. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/365935/its-about-helping-people-get-their-entitlement-not-about-benefits-policy#latest

That's why I'm asking if getting a widowed backpayment would be impacted if you'd ever received income support, working tax credit or child tax credit prior to the change in 2017 but I can't get a straight answer. If the information was clear, I wouldn't be posting. 

Dorothys_slipper

marcia_ said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. It's all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

 The law says you can't have been living together in a new relationship that means at any time from the date would have qualified, makes no difference if the relationship ended. In benefits law it does count. 

Where does it say that please? 

poppy12345

Dorothys_slipper said:

marcia_ said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. It's all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

 The law says you can't have been living together in a new relationship that means at any time from the date would have qualified, makes no difference if the relationship ended. In benefits law it does count. 

Where does it say that please? 

It tells you here https://www.gov.uk/widowed-parents-allowance you’ve been advised this many times. Living with someone whether you were married or not means you won’t be entitled. 

Dorothys_slipper

poppy12345 said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

marcia_ said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. It's all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

 The law says you can't have been living together in a new relationship that means at any time from the date would have qualified, makes no difference if the relationship ended. In benefits law it does count. 

Where does it say that please? 

It tells you here https://www.gov.uk/widowed-parents-allowance you’ve been advised this many times. Living with someone whether you were married or not means you won’t be entitled. 

It says 'are living with someone'. I'm not. 

marcia_

Dorothys_slipper said:

marcia_ said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. It's all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

 The law says you can't have been living together in a new relationship that means at any time from the date would have qualified, makes no difference if the relationship ended. In benefits law it does count. 

Where does it say that please? 

More here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65733ba758fa30000db141a8/dmg-vol10-ch63.pdf

Dorothys_slipper

marcia_ said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

marcia_ said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Dorothys_slipper said:

I'm unsure on the reason for the forum if it's not for asking question like this? I'm curious if anyone actually knows the answer? I was told on the phone that I can appeal if I want to. I'm just wondering if it's worth it? Some people seem to be quite happy to gloat "you don't qualify", when I'm actually discussing a bereavement benefit. 

It is undoubtedly a very unfortunate situation you find yourself in but with regard to the bit highlighted above, as a phone advisor, probably on NMW they have two options.

1.  Get embroiled in a lengthy discussion about the rights and wrongs of this policy and how it impacts you.  Then get wronged by management for long call handing times.

2.  End the call quickly by giving you false hope.

Thank you. Apparently my case wasn't clear cut. When I applied it said you can't be living with a new partner. I said nothing about having ever lived with someone new over 10 years ago. The marriage was annulled so in law it doesn't count either. If it had been a straight forward no, then I would have heard months ago. It's all been really stressful and upsetting. I just want to find out as much info as I can. 

 The law says you can't have been living together in a new relationship that means at any time from the date would have qualified, makes no difference if the relationship ended. In benefits law it does count. 

Where does it say that please? 

More here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65733ba758fa30000db141a8/dmg-vol10-ch63.pdf

Thank you. I'm still unsure how they can make that rule afterwards when it didn't initially apply to me?