Where can I park on these title deeds?? Please help

Robbie467

Hi Eveyone… thank you for your valued comments and suggestions. To answer a few of your questions, I have 2 cars and a van in my household, I have an integral garage but it’s not wide enough to get my car into..no one uses their garages for car parking to be honest. 

As for the person who complained, they have between 3-5 cars parking there and they themselves even park there at times, as well as the other neighbours and they take up pretty much all of the free parking when they have 5 vehicles present so it’s not only myself parking there.  I have lived there for 15 years and no one has ever complained about anyone parking there until these people moved in. It doesn’t cause any inconvenience to anyone but at the end of the day, yes, rules are rules which I will investigate further when I am there tomorrow. I fully understand the comments with fire and shared access, I was just wondering how I stood legally with it being within my property boundary. Their house boundary doesn’t go into the shared area (pic attached)  I will have to look deeply into the terms and conditions of the lease. Can I also ask, does anyone know if I purchased the lease does that change anything with regards to this? I will also look into making more space by taking up the grass. I didn’t want to do this however as I like the grass and greenery. I guess you cannot have everything. Unfortunately my driveway is the smallest out of them all which sucks for me I guess. 

BarelySentientAI

Robbie467 said:

I will have to look deeply into the terms and conditions of the lease. Can I also ask, does anyone know if I purchased the lease does that change anything with regards to this? 

If those properties have any sort of right of access across the land, which it seems they do, those rights wouldn't suddenly vanish if you bought the freehold.  Many properties have right of access across them (vehicle and/or pedestrian).

user1977

Robbie467 said:

Can I also ask, does anyone know if I purchased the lease does that change anything with regards to this? 

No, of course it wouldn't make any difference. The other properties will still have the same rights of access no matter what the tenure of your house is. You will need to find somewhere else to park.

ProDave

This highlights why I hate these sort of estates with insufficient parking, and why I like a property where there is space to park all our vehicles on our own land without bothering anyone else or them bothering us.

NameUnavailable

Robbie467 said:

Hi Eveyone… thank you for your valued comments and suggestions. To answer a few of your questions, I have 2 cars and a van in my household, I have an integral garage but it’s not wide enough to get my car into..no one uses their garages for car parking to be honest. 

As for the person who complained, they have between 3-5 cars parking there and they themselves even park there at times, as well as the other neighbours and they take up pretty much all of the free parking when they have 5 vehicles present so it’s not only myself parking there.  I have lived there for 15 years and no one has ever complained about anyone parking there until these people moved in. It doesn’t cause any inconvenience to anyone but at the end of the day, yes, rules are rules which I will investigate further when I am there tomorrow. I fully understand the comments with fire and shared access, I was just wondering how I stood legally with it being within my property boundary. Their house boundary doesn’t go into the shared area (pic attached)  I will have to look deeply into the terms and conditions of the lease. Can I also ask, does anyone know if I purchased the lease does that change anything with regards to this? I will also look into making more space by taking up the grass. I didn’t want to do this however as I like the grass and greenery. I guess you cannot have everything. Unfortunately my driveway is the smallest out of them all which sucks for me I guess. 

If others are using the access for parking then you should report them to the management company too, and I would tell the neighbour who has complained that they can't park there and have been reported!

If your house is leasehold you already own the lease, you probably mean if you buy the freehold. However that wouldn't change anything with regards to the access areas, but it would mean that you own your property (the lease is a long term rental agreement and your freeholder owns the land and building).

bobster2

Robbie467 said:

Hi Eveyone… thank you for your valued comments and suggestions. To answer a few of your questions, I have 2 cars and a van in my household, I have an integral garage but it’s not wide enough to get my car into..no one uses their garages for car parking to be honest. 

As for the person who complained, they have between 3-5 cars parking there and they themselves even park there at times, as well as the other neighbours and they take up pretty much all of the free parking when they have 5 vehicles present so it’s not only myself parking there.  I have lived there for 15 years and no one has ever complained about anyone parking there until these people moved in. It doesn’t cause any inconvenience to anyone but at the end of the day, yes, rules are rules which I will investigate further when I am there tomorrow. I fully understand the comments with fire and shared access, I was just wondering how I stood legally with it being within my property boundary.

It's entirely possible that you are not allowed to park somewhere on the property you own - because other people have a right of way over that land.

In everyone's deeds you probably have a line that says something like this...

"A right of way at all times and for all purposes with or without vehicles over and along such part of the accessway coloured yelllow"

sheramber

If you can't park there neither can they.

propertyrental

Have you read the LR Title document yet?

And surely you have a copy of the lease from when you purchased?

Gentoo365

Robbie467 said:

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As for the person who complained, they have between 3-5 cars parking there and they themselves even park there at times.
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I don't understand this. How can they complain about you doing something that they also do?

Either people stick to the rules, nobody parks there, or everyone agrees to ignore that rule.

Ultimately if he keeps complaining the management company will get some parking enforcement company to enforce it, with fines. If that is what this new neighbour wants then so be it. 

BarelySentientAI

Gentoo365 said:

Robbie467 said:

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As for the person who complained, they have between 3-5 cars parking there and they themselves even park there at times.
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I don't understand this. How can they complain about you doing something that they also do?

Either people stick to the rules, nobody parks there, or everyone agrees to ignore that rule.

Ultimately if he keeps complaining the management company will get some parking enforcement company to enforce it, with fines. If that is what this new neighbour wants then so be it. 

Usually it's because they've got used to part of that area being "their spaces" or the bit they drive over to get to them.

Anyone else using the shared part is then, in their head, stopping the use of "their spaces".

Ends up with a conversation along the lines of "everyone knows that we always park there so you shouldn't be ...."