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  • Okay, thank you.
    On the tax credit award letter 
    it says my payments would be £738.52 from April 2024.
    is this what my parents should be getting from April 2024 on UC?.

    thank you!
  • poppy12345
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    Okay, thank you.
    On the tax credit award letter 
    it says my payments would be £738.52 from April 2024.
    is this what my parents should be getting from April 2024 on UC?.

    thank you!
    No because that was for TC. They claim UC now so next month should be the same as this month, if their circumstances don't change. 
  • Yamor
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    edited 22 March 2024 at 11:10AM
    As Poppy says, that figure is what they would have expected to get had they remained on tax credits.
    Transitional Protection is calculated once at the start of the claim and never again, so it is now irrelevant what tax credits would have paid from April.

    As per my earlier post, the UC will reduce from April, due to increases to their income from Carer's Allowance and (presumably) the pension, but their overall income, after adding together the UC, the Carer's Allowances and the pension income, should remain the same.
  • Ahh okay. Makes sense 
    Thank you!
  • Hi2928828292
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    edited 22 March 2024 at 11:31AM
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

  • NedS
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    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    The payments will reduce from the date the course (or term) ends, which will be in the summer before September. You must report a change to UC to remove the child from the claim on the official end date of the course.
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  • Yamor
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    edited 22 March 2024 at 12:34PM
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
  • Yamor said:
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
    Yamor said:
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
    What will the UC payments be in September when the 2nd child on the claim who is 17y currently turning 18y in May finishes his a levels  in the summer.

    Also, when do we report this to UC?
    as his exams finish in June for A levels and get his results in August. 
  • poppy12345
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    Yamor said:
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
    Yamor said:
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
    What will the UC payments be in September when the 2nd child on the claim who is 17y currently turning 18y in May finishes his a levels  in the summer.

    Also, when do we report this to UC?
    as his exams finish in June for A levels and get his results in August. 
    Child element for this person will be £333.33/month after the April increase, which will stop once they leave education. Once they leave this will be when changes need to be reported. 
  • NedS
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    Yamor said:
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
    Yamor said:
    Okay but will the UC payments reduce from September as the child who is currently 17y will be turning 18y in May and leaving education in September. 

    Thank you! 
    1) So the UC amount will still  be £907 ( I know the CA and pension inflation increases will be deducted)
    until September when a child leaves the claim due to finishing educating and being 18y. 

    2) In April do we have to report a change in income for the increase CA and PENSION payment or is this not required?

    Thank you!
    so my parents are better off on UC then TC?

    As @NedS says, the child will come off their claim from the start of the AP in which their course finishes.

    1) Yes, it should be £907 less the increases to Carer's Allowances and pension.

    2) CA increases should be accounted for automatically, but you should report the increase in pension entitlement.

    They are not better off on UC. They are currently the same, and will be worse off from April.
    Tax Credits payment were due to go down from April simply because there were six 4-weekly payment dates from 6th April 2024 to 31st August 2024, but there are only 148 days in that period.
    This means £907/month of entitlement equates to receiving 4-weekly payments of around £736:
    £907*12/365*148/6=£736
    What will the UC payments be in September when the 2nd child on the claim who is 17y currently turning 18y in May finishes his a levels  in the summer.

    Also, when do we report this to UC?
    as his exams finish in June for A levels and get his results in August. 
    You report the change on the last day of the school term as the official end date of their course. You can check this date with the local council.

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