price of house coal

rentaboy

A._Badger said:

Cheslea2010 said:

Only smokless coal and kiln dried logs are permitted now due to the new air quality regs. I would imagine that smokless coal will be phased out in the not too distant future due to the fossil fuel debate.

Logs do not have to be kiln dried. But they are supposed to meet a certain standard of moisture content. 

What dose the moisture content have to do with being permitted?

rentaboy

banned! banned! banned!

maxmycardagain

Deep below our very feet
lies the stuff you need to meet
shiny hard and burns all night
1 lump a day will see you right
Its called the Ryder in our pit
We smuggle home a lump of it
Despite the miners coal for free
Its the Ryder every time for me

The Warwickshire Ryder seam was terrific, despite our 132cwt of free coal a year we would wrap up a lump underground (it wasnt mined by then) and take it home, we had a small stove with back boiler and it would last all day.

rentaboy

maxmycardagain said:

Deep below our very feet
lies the stuff you need to meet
shiny hard and burns all night
1 lump a day will see you right
Its called the Ryder in our pit
We smuggle home a lump of it
Despite the miners coal for free
Its the Ryder every time for me

The Warwickshire Ryder seam was terrific, despite our 132cwt of free coal a year we would wrap up a lump underground (it wasnt mined by then) and take it home, we had a small stove with back boiler and it would last all day.

Aparantly there is a hill in Poyton that you dont even need to dig it out the ground its loose!
Would like to know if anyone has had any luck digging it out them selfs though?

QrizB

If it's music night:

http://www.ed-pickford.co.uk/iamcoal.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpsktLMNrLM

A._Badger

rentaboy said:

A._Badger said:

Cheslea2010 said:

Only smokless coal and kiln dried logs are permitted now due to the new air quality regs. I would imagine that smokless coal will be phased out in the not too distant future due to the fossil fuel debate.

Logs do not have to be kiln dried. But they are supposed to meet a certain standard of moisture content. 

What dose the moisture content have to do with being permitted?

Because the supposed aim of the legislation was to stop people burning wood that emitted a lot of smoke - in other words, wet wood. People with money to burn buy kiln dried wood, the more MSE savvy either naturally season wood themselves or buy it once it has naturally. Kiln drying is expensive.  

rentaboy

A._Badger said:

rentaboy said:

A._Badger said:

Cheslea2010 said:

Only smokless coal and kiln dried logs are permitted now due to the new air quality regs. I would imagine that smokless coal will be phased out in the not too distant future due to the fossil fuel debate.

Logs do not have to be kiln dried. But they are supposed to meet a certain standard of moisture content. 

What dose the moisture content have to do with being permitted?

Because the supposed aim of the legislation was to stop people burning wood that emitted a lot of smoke - in other words, wet wood. People with money to burn buy kiln dried wood, the more MSE savvy either naturally season wood themselves or buy it once it has naturally. Kiln drying is expensive.  

But wet wood dose not emit smoke it emits steam

Netexporter

It emits far more smoke per useful kWh of heat because much of the calorific value is wasted on evaporating water.

FreeBear

rentaboy said:

A._Badger said:

rentaboy said:

A._Badger said:

Cheslea2010 said:

Only smokless coal and kiln dried logs are permitted now due to the new air quality regs. I would imagine that smokless coal will be phased out in the not too distant future due to the fossil fuel debate.

Logs do not have to be kiln dried. But they are supposed to meet a certain standard of moisture content. 

What dose the moisture content have to do with being permitted?

Because the supposed aim of the legislation was to stop people burning wood that emitted a lot of smoke - in other words, wet wood. People with money to burn buy kiln dried wood, the more MSE savvy either naturally season wood themselves or buy it once it has naturally. Kiln drying is expensive.  

But wet wood dose not emit smoke it emits steam

Burning wet wood also increases the amount of creosote forming in the flue. In addition, when the vapour condenses, it reacts with other chemical in the smoke (and the deposits already in the flue) to form acid which then eats away at the flue. On top of that, the particulate emissions increase dramatically.

If you want an efficient clean burn with maximum heat output, use well seasoned logs.

mumf

it’s also about the heat the wood yields when burnt. Nobody is dopey enough ( surely) to realise that wet wood is not warm wood? Also mentioned is creosote forming in your chimney. That is an excellent point. Ever seen a chimney fire? My neighbour used to burn anything,and ended up setting fire to his chimney and roof!