RTS switch off Economy 7

Gerry1

inspectorperez said:

The old fashioned analogue meter is located under a concrete stairwell about 30 feet away from the property itself which is on an upper level.

@inspectorperez If there are other people's meters there, do the Meter Sanity Test to make sure you're not paying someone else's bills !

MrsOs

Sorry to jump on this thread but we have an economy seven meter but it doesn’t switch on our water or heating posting a pic of it. Is the world going to end if I just leave it as it is ? Or do I defo need to change it urgently. 

MrsOs

Here is the pic of our box 

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Spoonie_Turtle

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QrizB

MrsOs said:

Sorry to jump on this thread but we have an economy seven meter but it doesn’t switch on our water or heating posting a pic of it. Is the world going to end if I just leave it as it is ? Or do I defo need to change it urgently. 

That's a radio teleswitch. If you have Economy 7 or a similar multi-rate tariff, it controls the times that your rates switch. It's likely to continue switching even when the radio signal ceases.

Can you tell us a bit more about your household? If your water and heating aren't controlled by the RTS, how are they controlled?

ThisAndThat2024

Dear Askers and Experts,
Thank you for all the info. that you've provided, in this and other threads, about long-wave switch-off and RTS meters.

In due course, I'd like to post a photo of my meter set-up, and ask if you'd identify for me, whether of not it's RTS. (However, MSE require me to make a few posts, before I'm allowed to post a photo.)
I've sought this and other relevant info. from Octopus, and each rep. I speak with, gives me a contradictory answer.

Meanwhile, I've a couple of questions, if my meter is not RTS:
1. If it has an internal clock, does this require cellular 2G or 3G to switch it from day/night and control the timings?
2. Is 2G & 3G being switched off in 2025, or from 2025 completing by 2033?
3. My meter was installed in 2007, and Octopus tell me it's 'licensed' for use until 2028, and that I can't use it beyond this date. Is this correct? Could I continue to use it if it remains functional?

Kind regards, S.

mmmmikey

ThisAndThat2024 said:

Dear Askers and Experts,
Thank you for all the info. that you've provided, in this and other threads, about long-wave switch-off and RTS meters.

In due course, I'd like to post a photo of my meter set-up, and ask if you'd identify for me, whether of not it's RTS. (However, MSE require me to make a few posts, before I'm allowed to post a photo.)
I've sought this and other relevant info. from Octopus, and each rep. I speak with, gives me a contradictory answer.

Meanwhile, I've a couple of questions, if my meter is not RTS:
1. If it has an internal clock, does this require cellular 2G or 3G to switch it from day/night and control the timings?
2. Is 2G & 3G being switched off in 2025, or from 2025 completing by 2033?
3. My meter was installed in 2007, and Octopus tell me it's 'licensed' for use until 2028, and that I can't use it beyond this date. Is this correct? Could I continue to use it if it remains functional?

Kind regards, S.

Hi

1. Meters with an internal clock do not use a mobile signal to set the time, the times are programmed in (and like all clocks this can drift over time).

2. Not sure, but assuming it realtes to question 1 not relevant as your meter does not use it and won't be effected.

3. The meter belongs to the supplier, not you, and they are allowed to change it when it comes to the end of it's certification date. If they don't change it then you can still use it and it won't stop working. But they are likely to change it for a smart meter before it reaches end of certified life.

Hope this helps, Mike

Spoonie_Turtle

ThisAndThat2024 said:

3. My meter was installed in 2007, and Octopus tell me it's 'licensed' for use until 2028, and that I can't use it beyond this date. Is this correct? Could I continue to use it if it remains functional?

Depends which type - i.e. make/model - of meter as they have different lengths of certification period, but 20 years sounds fairly standard.  There's no real reason to doubt what Octopus have told you but you can check for yourself here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/schedule-4-uk-nationally-approved-electricity-meters

Scot_39

@BertandMaud

Just flicking back on my post above.

Can you check your exact metering arrangement.

As Scottish Power have multiple complex time of use tariffs.  Not just standard modern take on E7 - which is fixed 7 hour time of use E7 (either continuous or split e.g. 2+5 in some cases the 2 often kicking in pre midnight like say 1030sh).

There is a full list on their site  - most don't have E7 in title - but there is one with it.

https://www.scottishpower.co.uk/energy-efficiency/energy-efficiency-toolkit/electric-heating

E7 plus with Weathercall.

Which does actively vary off peak timings according to forecast temperatures.

Gerry1

Here's ThisAndThat2024's photo.  There's no Radio Teleswitch shown.