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Sound bar connection- no hdmi or optical

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  • cerebus
    cerebus Posts: 677 Forumite
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    Game? What game?
    You suggested a cable. I supported you.
    We both got it wrong, it will not work.

    Just thought it best I admit my error/edit post and thought you might to do too as it clarifies things for readers.

    If you don't agree or just don't want to admit an error ( you did say no guarentee) that's fine with me.
    Again stop playing games, it just comes across as childish 

    If you wish to edit your incorrect posts then you have a lot of work to do......
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,603 Forumite
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    facade said:
    Did you try connecting that phono next to the optical out to the COAXIAL port on the soundbar?

    an audio lead will work.
    Most likely it won't work as CoAxial will be digital and the Subwoofer out will be analogue. 

    In the unlikely case it did work the soundbar would be running in mono rather than stereo or surround sound and potentially would only be passed the sub woofer channel so you'd get virtually no dialogue through it etc. 

    If the OP has a spare cable then they could give it ago... would personally guarantee that pushing an analogue sub output into a digital input wouldn't cause damage though. 

    Ah- the missing letters make up subW! I couldn't imagine what they could be.

    I've never seen a TV with a sub out before. I thought it was a digital out if your audio manufacturer wouldn't pay Toshiba a royalty for the use of a Toslink connector.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • cohl123
    cohl123 Posts: 83 Forumite
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    Yes I tried phono to phono/ coax and it didn't work

    So im going to look at hdmi arc? To optical converter OR replace soundbar depending on dimensions one I've looked at

    Re someone quering new in the op it's  media wall I've had built, destruction of old setup is what damaged the optical port. Media wall is still crap and needs work  but that's another story !

    Thanks to all - will post yo see if I've goy the right cable before I buy
  • cohl123
    cohl123 Posts: 83 Forumite
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    cohl123 said:

    I nearly bought 55 inch apple TV on black Friday- won't replace now as the wall is built for 50 inch.
    Do Apple make TVs? 
    Apple make the AppleTV but its a streaming box not a TV.

    cohl123 said:
    Hi all ! Had dramas with a new media wall and basically it doesn't have a hdmi port on the sound bar and the optical cable on the TV is damaged 

    I've bought an rca red white which doesn't connect- think as the TV is input not output. How else can i connect? Soundbar has an orange coax?
    Not sure what the "new" element is as these are both old devices based on their connections. 

    You need to move the HDMI cable that currently goes into the port labeled ARC into HDMI2. You then need to buy a HDMI audio extractor, plenty for sale on Amazon, and plug that into the ARC HDMI port and use an optical cable from it to the soundbar. 

    The SCART ports won't be outputting sound and so no point getting a SCART to Composite cable
    Just for clarity- is it a device that I can plug hdmi arc in from TV, then optical to soundbar ?
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 18,613 Forumite
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    cohl123 said:
    cohl123 said:

    I nearly bought 55 inch apple TV on black Friday- won't replace now as the wall is built for 50 inch.
    Do Apple make TVs? 
    Apple make the AppleTV but its a streaming box not a TV.

    cohl123 said:
    Hi all ! Had dramas with a new media wall and basically it doesn't have a hdmi port on the sound bar and the optical cable on the TV is damaged 

    I've bought an rca red white which doesn't connect- think as the TV is input not output. How else can i connect? Soundbar has an orange coax?
    Not sure what the "new" element is as these are both old devices based on their connections. 

    You need to move the HDMI cable that currently goes into the port labeled ARC into HDMI2. You then need to buy a HDMI audio extractor, plenty for sale on Amazon, and plug that into the ARC HDMI port and use an optical cable from it to the soundbar. 

    The SCART ports won't be outputting sound and so no point getting a SCART to Composite cable
    Just for clarity- is it a device that I can plug hdmi arc in from TV, then optical to soundbar ?
    Yes... it will be a box that needs a power connection too.

    facade said:
    Ah- the missing letters make up subW! I couldn't imagine what they could be.

    I've never seen a TV with a sub out before. I thought it was a digital out if your audio manufacturer wouldn't pay Toshiba a royalty for the use of a Toslink connector.
    It's certainly not common but a few TVs have had Dolby Surround that you could expand to Dolby Digital by attaching surround speakers and a sub. These days they claim to have Dobly Atmos built in without use of additional speakers.
  • facade said:
    Ah- the missing letters make up subW! I couldn't imagine what they could be.

    I've never seen a TV with a sub out before. I thought it was a digital out if your audio manufacturer wouldn't pay Toshiba a royalty for the use of a Toslink connector.
    It's certainly not common but a few TVs have had Dolby Surround that you could expand to Dolby Digital by attaching surround speakers and a sub. These days they claim to have Dobly Atmos built in without use of additional speakers.
    I had one of those, a Phillips, purchased in around 2000, 36" CRT, weighed 70kg and cost somewhere North of £4K.

    I had been sent out for a small portable for the kitchen and got bamboozled by the shiny things on Tottenham Court Road. 
  • DullGreyGuy
    DullGreyGuy Posts: 18,613 Forumite
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    facade said:
    Ah- the missing letters make up subW! I couldn't imagine what they could be.

    I've never seen a TV with a sub out before. I thought it was a digital out if your audio manufacturer wouldn't pay Toshiba a royalty for the use of a Toslink connector.
    It's certainly not common but a few TVs have had Dolby Surround that you could expand to Dolby Digital by attaching surround speakers and a sub. These days they claim to have Dobly Atmos built in without use of additional speakers.
    I had one of those, a Phillips, purchased in around 2000, 36" CRT, weighed 70kg and cost somewhere North of £4K.

    I had been sent out for a small portable for the kitchen and got bamboozled by the shiny things on Tottenham Court Road. 
    Had the 32" Panasonic equivalent... very similar weight but thankfully a lot less than £4k!

    The stupid thing was there were handles on each side but with spring mounted blanking panels but some idiot designed it such that it was hinged inwards at the top so you actually ended up carrying 60kg or so on the thin edge of the plastic covers. 

    Great TV, unfortunately the stand sold for more than the TV when I replaced it for LED but the person who collected it (and complained about the handles) even gave me an extra £10 as they felt they'd paid too little for how good it was (oddly thats happened to me twice now)
  • cohl123
    cohl123 Posts: 83 Forumite
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    Hi again all - bought converter - 

    Hdmi from TV (tried arc and not arc) into converter - then optical digital from converter into soundbar... no sound.

    Have messed about with soundbar settings and TV settings (there's not much on the TV apart from headphone/ lineout and digital out - PCM or compressed. Tried both!

    No sound, please help. Failing that will have to ship back and make do with a new sound bar that won't fit the dimensions 


  • cerebus
    cerebus Posts: 677 Forumite
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    Start simple is there power getting to the converter from the external power supply?
  • cohl123
    cohl123 Posts: 83 Forumite
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    How embarrassing! I thought something was up with the optical not being red.

    So it had no power as hadn't realised it needed power via cable to USB in the TV.

    Still nothing though

    1) tried all hdmi ports on tv (normal and arc)
    2) tried optical port on the soundbar for both TV and dvd/ player.

    Tried every setting on soundbar and TV 
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