Sound bar connection- no hdmi or optical

cerebus

DullGreyGuy said:

Heedtheadvice said:

Cerebus would seem to have found a cable to work. At only £8 it is worth  a try.

Not sure £8 is "worth a try" when a solution that will work is only a couple of quid more.

Not sure which port you're expecting the coaxial cable to go into? The 4 coaxial ports on the back of the TV are all analogue and 3 are video in. The Coaxial on the soundbar is likely to be digital and so won't accept the analogue subwoofer output. Even if it did it's going to be mono and so likely the soundbar sounds worse than the TV's built in speakers. 

Heedtheadvice is talking about the hdmi arc to phono l r and video cable I linked to , there's no reason it won't work as the arc socket is an output and the phono l r is an input but like I said its a guess as I have never connected an older TV to a soundbar this way before 

There are other options such as repairing the optical socket or replacing either the telly or soubdbar or both

And again like heedtheadvice says for £8 it's worth a punt 

flaneurs_lobster

cerebus said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Heedtheadvice said:

Cerebus would seem to have found a cable to work. At only £8 it is worth  a try.

Not sure £8 is "worth a try" when a solution that will work is only a couple of quid more.

Not sure which port you're expecting the coaxial cable to go into? The 4 coaxial ports on the back of the TV are all analogue and 3 are video in. The Coaxial on the soundbar is likely to be digital and so won't accept the analogue subwoofer output. Even if it did it's going to be mono and so likely the soundbar sounds worse than the TV's built in speakers. 

Heedtheadvice is talking about the hdmi arc to phono l r and video cable I linked to , there's no reason it won't work as the arc socket is an output and the phono l r is an input but like I said its a guess as I have never connected an older TV to a soundbar this way before 

There are other options such as repairing the optical socket or replacing either the telly or soubdbar or both

And again like heedtheadvice says for £8 it's worth a punt 

Little knowledge here but isn't HDMI (ARC or otherwise) a digital output and phono inputs analogue? How would that work?

oldernonethewiser

flaneurs_lobster said:

cerebus said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Heedtheadvice said:

Cerebus would seem to have found a cable to work. At only £8 it is worth  a try.

Not sure £8 is "worth a try" when a solution that will work is only a couple of quid more.

Not sure which port you're expecting the coaxial cable to go into? The 4 coaxial ports on the back of the TV are all analogue and 3 are video in. The Coaxial on the soundbar is likely to be digital and so won't accept the analogue subwoofer output. Even if it did it's going to be mono and so likely the soundbar sounds worse than the TV's built in speakers. 

Heedtheadvice is talking about the hdmi arc to phono l r and video cable I linked to , there's no reason it won't work as the arc socket is an output and the phono l r is an input but like I said its a guess as I have never connected an older TV to a soundbar this way before 

There are other options such as repairing the optical socket or replacing either the telly or soubdbar or both

And again like heedtheadvice says for £8 it's worth a punt 

Little knowledge here but isn't HDMI (ARC or otherwise) a digital output and phono inputs analogue? How would that work?

Using one of these sort of things?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Converter-Cable-Cables-Adapter-Composite/dp/B09WDMWMJG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=hdmi+to+rca+converter&qid=1703159833&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

DullGreyGuy

cerebus said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Heedtheadvice said:

Cerebus would seem to have found a cable to work. At only £8 it is worth  a try.

Not sure £8 is "worth a try" when a solution that will work is only a couple of quid more.

Not sure which port you're expecting the coaxial cable to go into? The 4 coaxial ports on the back of the TV are all analogue and 3 are video in. The Coaxial on the soundbar is likely to be digital and so won't accept the analogue subwoofer output. Even if it did it's going to be mono and so likely the soundbar sounds worse than the TV's built in speakers. 

Heedtheadvice is talking about the hdmi arc to phono l r and video cable I linked to , there's no reason it won't work as the arc socket is an output and the phono l r is an input but like I said its a guess as I have never connected an older TV to a soundbar this way before 

There are other options such as repairing the optical socket or replacing either the telly or soubdbar or both

And again like heedtheadvice says for £8 it's worth a punt 

It won't work because HDMI is digital and the composite connectors it has at the other end are analogue. You would need a box in the middle that contains a DAC. Unfortunately Amazon is full of impossible cables, this is better than most in that the text box basically admits it won't work.

Given you need to spend £15 for something more than just a cable you may as well leave everything digital and use a HDMI -> Optical conversion box else if you think the DAC in the soundbar is poor and its only a stereo soundbar anyway then you could get a HDMI->Analogue convertor and use stereo connectors.  

flaneurs_lobster

oldernonethewiser said:

flaneurs_lobster said:

cerebus said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Heedtheadvice said:

Cerebus would seem to have found a cable to work. At only £8 it is worth  a try.

Not sure £8 is "worth a try" when a solution that will work is only a couple of quid more.

Not sure which port you're expecting the coaxial cable to go into? The 4 coaxial ports on the back of the TV are all analogue and 3 are video in. The Coaxial on the soundbar is likely to be digital and so won't accept the analogue subwoofer output. Even if it did it's going to be mono and so likely the soundbar sounds worse than the TV's built in speakers. 

Heedtheadvice is talking about the hdmi arc to phono l r and video cable I linked to , there's no reason it won't work as the arc socket is an output and the phono l r is an input but like I said its a guess as I have never connected an older TV to a soundbar this way before 

There are other options such as repairing the optical socket or replacing either the telly or soubdbar or both

And again like heedtheadvice says for £8 it's worth a punt 

Little knowledge here but isn't HDMI (ARC or otherwise) a digital output and phono inputs analogue? How would that work?

Using one of these sort of things?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Converter-Cable-Cables-Adapter-Composite/dp/B09WDMWMJG/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?keywords=hdmi+to+rca+converter&qid=1703159833&sr=8-1-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

Looks brilliant, heads up though - the magic box in the middle needs power so that's another cable to powered USB or power supply.

facade

Did you try connecting that phono next to the optical out to the COAXIAL port on the soundbar?

an audio lead will work.

Heedtheadvice

Thanks chaps for correcting me.

Very embarrassed poster is me....

Edited my original post.

Suggest Cerebus considers doing the same?

DullGreyGuy

facade said:

Did you try connecting that phono next to the optical out to the COAXIAL port on the soundbar?

an audio lead will work.

Most likely it won't work as CoAxial will be digital and the Subwoofer out will be analogue. 

In the unlikely case it did work the soundbar would be running in mono rather than stereo or surround sound and potentially would only be passed the sub woofer channel so you'd get virtually no dialogue through it etc. 

If the OP has a spare cable then they could give it ago... would personally guarantee that pushing an analogue sub output into a digital input wouldn't cause damage though. 

cerebus

Heedtheadvice said:

Thanks chaps for correcting me.

Very embarrassed poster is me....

Edited my original post.

Suggest Cerebus considers doing the same?

Heedtheadvice said:

Thanks chaps for correcting me.

Very embarrassed poster is me....

Edited my original post.

Suggest Cerebus considers doing the same?

Not quite sure what game you're playing here but it won't work......

Heedtheadvice

Game? What game?

You suggested a cable. I supported you.

We both got it wrong, it will not work.

Just thought it best I admit my error/edit post and thought you might to do too as it clarifies things for readers.

If you don't agree or just don't want to admit an error ( you did say no guarentee) that's fine with me.