Money Moral Dilemma: Should I ask for money if people charge their electric cars when they visit?

misimp

Money Saving Expert???

Seems to be two camps here

1) The true money saving expert EV driver who saves by  plugging  in to anyone he visits

2) The others who either agrees to subsidise the EV owners or is castigated as a skinflint
 
To  be fair I have to say that the first lot must be the Money Saving Experts :-]]

MacPingu1986

Or.... perhaps there's a much more reasonable Option 3 where we help out our friends and family with small favors from time to time because... they're our friends and family. 

If a friend was driving a decent distance to come and see me I'm usually pretty grateful and I'm pretty comfortable with them plugging in with a granny charger for a couple of hours whilst they're visiting. I don't see it as much different to any other small "cost" someone imposes if I give someone food, drink, heating etc... when they visit (and indeed if they wanted to charge their phone).

We all have different thresholds on when the cost of something goes from being a free favor to expecting a contribution, I'm more than happy to effectively give a couple of quid to help an old friend who's taken the time to travel far to see me.

LightFlare

Where does it stop 

Electricity is NOT a free resource to just expect to get for free - friend,family or neither

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/h8sQu36GCnuEraEg/?mibextid=KsPBc6

(and yes, I am aware this isnt a genuine video)

donny_jim

I don’t have an EV, But if I did I wouldn’t dream of asking to charge without offering to pay. If no offer is made tell them they can IF THEY PAY. 

LightFlare

Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot - the home owner could ask the EV owner if they could just borrow their battery and connect up to do a load of washing or tumble drying 

After all - don’t all EV owners get electricity for 7ppu - so they would in effect be helping their friends save money

Jenni_D

Those white goods appliances would have to be isolated from earth/the house supply if the car was to be used to power them. Some (not all) EVs support V2L (vehicle to load) but very few (if any) support V2G (vehicle to grid).  

And no they don't - not unless they've signed up to a time of day tariff. Even for EV owners those tariffs don't always make sense - you need to be willing to switch quite a lot of your power usage (washing, tumble drying, etc.) to those cheap hours, and/or doing lots of EV miles, for such tariffs to be viable

misimp

MacPingu1986 said:

Or.... perhaps there's a much more reasonable Option 3 where we help out our friends and family with small favors from time to time because... they're our friends and family. 

If a friend was driving a decent distance to come and see me I'm usually pretty grateful and I'm pretty comfortable with them plugging in with a granny charger for a couple of hours whilst they're visiting. I don't see it as much different to any other small "cost" someone imposes if I give someone food, drink, heating etc... when they visit (and indeed if they wanted to charge their phone).

We all have different thresholds on when the cost of something goes from being a free favor to expecting a contribution, I'm more than happy to effectively give a couple of quid to help an old friend who's taken the time to travel far to see me.

In our case the cost would have been in the region of £15 to us (around 13hrs on granny charger)

It would have cost around £20 and taken around 40 minutes at a fast charge point 1/3 of a mile away

 Perhaps the fact that wifey is VERY careful with gas/electricity/water bills colours her views

LesD

There is, of course, the other option to bypass the question by asking them to park two streets away to avoid any risk from thermal runaway!

MacPingu1986

LightFlare said:

Maybe if the shoe was on the other foot - the home owner could ask the EV owner if they could just borrow their battery and connect up to do a load of washing or tumble drying 

After all - don’t all EV owners get electricity for 7ppu - so they would in effect be helping their friends save money

I've literally been round at my-in laws this week, got soaked in some rain running a quick errand without a coat on and they tumble dried my shirt for me - it's just simple easy stuff we do for those we care about.

If a friend was round at mine in soaking wet clothes I think it'd be pretty unreasonable to *not* help them out.

Herzlos

misimp said:
In response to an earlier post - no we don't charge them for food or anything else. Neither do we fill other visitors cars with petrol or diesel. Nor do we expect them to pay for OUR petrol when we visit them

Hypothetically, what would you do if you had a petrol pump, or a tank, and it cost you about half of what forecourts charged?

Would you refuse then? Would you allow it if they paid?