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Fibre to the property (FTTP) - inconvenience

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  • iniltous
    iniltous Posts: 3,687 Forumite
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    edited 26 October 2023 at 2:51PM
    Its somewhat hypocritical to argue that Virgin having spent money on ducts etc should be allowed to share with BT , otherwise why would they bother doing it , yet when BT ( Openreach ) do the same thing , they have no choice but to allow Virgin ( and anyone else ) access to ducts , poles , joint boxes etc, but have no problem with that parasitic arrangement.
    BTW in the case of infrastructure, its Openreach not BT .
  • Rob5342
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    iniltous said:
    Openreach FTTP doesn’t come from a cabinet ( the copper cabinet or the ‘fibre to the cabinet’ FTTC , cabinet .
    Virgin can and do use Openreach ducts and joint boxes using PIA ( physical infrastructure access ) if they want to , but if they don’t they may excavate for ducts etc themselves. 
    Even if using PIA they can excavate for their own ducts and boxes to link their own network into the Openreach network 

    But I still don't understand why all of the companies don't get together and share the ducting - it would save money, be much faster and less annoying to residents ....How many more ducts are going to be installed by BT, TalkTalk etc etc in the next 12 months ?
    They aren't looking at sharing infrastructure costs, they are looking at getting customers to use them rather than their competitors. They might save on infrastructure costs but their investment would benefit their competitors as much as it benefitted them.

    I expect it will only be a few companies that build in each area as their won't be enough customers to support more than that. Also in a few years we'll probably see a lot of the new companies merge so ultimately there will only bew a few different companies (like all the cable companies merging to become virgin media)

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